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		<title>By: Noga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael W.: &quot;It was the Palestinians’ Arab bretheren that rejected Partition in 1947, something the Palestinians are now embracing.&quot;

Are they? Where have they declared this &quot;embracing&quot;?

Palestinians still reject the two states for two peoples 1947 UN Resolution. Because embracing it de-facto means they accept that Israel is a Jewish state and RoR is relegated to the attic, forever. Not one Palestinian leader has stated his willingness to accept the premise for Resolution 181.

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Jojo: &quot;... most jews that “colonialized” this land, as you say, didn’t come here on an imperialist mission on behalf of an existing jewish empire. they came here as a persecuted people. as refugees.&quot;


From The Peel Commission Report (July 1937):

&quot;Considering what the possibility of finding a refuge in Palestine means to thousands of suffering Jews, is the loss occasioned by Partition, great as it would be, more than Arab generosity can bear?&quot;


The first statement was written in 1937, when the world was beginning to get wise to what was being planned for the Jews, but even so, the report can only imagine &quot;thousands&quot; of suffering Jews getting a lease on life if permitted to immigrate to Palestine.

The Arabs of Palestine, though addressed with the most explicit plea in the report for showing &quot;generosity&quot; to the persecuted Jews of Europe, existentially threatened, did not for a second consider this possibility and continued to mount their pressure on the British to seal the borders. When there was hardly a country in the world open to accept Jewish refugees fleeing from Hitler&#039;s ominous programmes, Mandate Palestine, which had been commissioned by the League of Nations to provide a safe haven for Jews, chose to close ranks with the Arabs and seal the borders, against the Jews.

The only place that would have welcomed these refugees and could have saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, joined the rest of the world&#039;s complicity in these crimes.

Today, the staple Palestinian argument is that they had no responsibility whatsoever for what happened to the Jews. But they did. They bear at least the same responsibility as as every country that ever refused to accept Jews who were looking to get out of Europe.

The Grand Mufti&#039;s special relationship with Hitler is another aspect of Arab complicity in the annihilation of the Jews:

&quot;As German political scientist Matthias Kuntzel chronicled in his work ... the Muslim Brotherhood, which spawned the PLO&#039;s Fatah as well as al-Qaida, Hamas and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, owes much of its ideological success and pseudo-philosophical roots to Nazism.&quot;

&quot;In the 1930s, the mufti of Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, rigorously courted the Nazis. When, in 1936, he launched his terror war against the Jewish Yishuv in the British controlled Palestine Mandate, he repeatedly asked the Nazis for financial backing, which began arriving in 1937.&quot; &quot;From 1936-39 Husseini&#039;s terror army murdered 415 Jews. In later years, Husseini noted that were it not for Nazi money, his onslaught would have been defeated in 1937. His movement was imbued with Nazism. His men saluted one another with Nazi salutes and members of his youth movement sported Hitler Youth uniforms.&quot;

With this history as a model, the Palestinian Foundational documents which call for the destruction of Israel make a lot of sense. They were not conceived out of the blue, a reaction to the Six-Day-War and occupation, but were the natural denouement that began in 1920, premises taken to their logical conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael W.: &#8220;It was the Palestinians’ Arab bretheren that rejected Partition in 1947, something the Palestinians are now embracing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are they? Where have they declared this &#8220;embracing&#8221;?</p>
<p>Palestinians still reject the two states for two peoples 1947 UN Resolution. Because embracing it de-facto means they accept that Israel is a Jewish state and RoR is relegated to the attic, forever. Not one Palestinian leader has stated his willingness to accept the premise for Resolution 181.</p>
<p>__________</p>
<p>Jojo: &#8220;&#8230; most jews that “colonialized” this land, as you say, didn’t come here on an imperialist mission on behalf of an existing jewish empire. they came here as a persecuted people. as refugees.&#8221;</p>
<p>From The Peel Commission Report (July 1937):</p>
<p>&#8220;Considering what the possibility of finding a refuge in Palestine means to thousands of suffering Jews, is the loss occasioned by Partition, great as it would be, more than Arab generosity can bear?&#8221;</p>
<p>The first statement was written in 1937, when the world was beginning to get wise to what was being planned for the Jews, but even so, the report can only imagine &#8220;thousands&#8221; of suffering Jews getting a lease on life if permitted to immigrate to Palestine.</p>
<p>The Arabs of Palestine, though addressed with the most explicit plea in the report for showing &#8220;generosity&#8221; to the persecuted Jews of Europe, existentially threatened, did not for a second consider this possibility and continued to mount their pressure on the British to seal the borders. When there was hardly a country in the world open to accept Jewish refugees fleeing from Hitler&#8217;s ominous programmes, Mandate Palestine, which had been commissioned by the League of Nations to provide a safe haven for Jews, chose to close ranks with the Arabs and seal the borders, against the Jews.</p>
<p>The only place that would have welcomed these refugees and could have saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, joined the rest of the world&#8217;s complicity in these crimes.</p>
<p>Today, the staple Palestinian argument is that they had no responsibility whatsoever for what happened to the Jews. But they did. They bear at least the same responsibility as as every country that ever refused to accept Jews who were looking to get out of Europe.</p>
<p>The Grand Mufti&#8217;s special relationship with Hitler is another aspect of Arab complicity in the annihilation of the Jews:</p>
<p>&#8220;As German political scientist Matthias Kuntzel chronicled in his work &#8230; the Muslim Brotherhood, which spawned the PLO&#8217;s Fatah as well as al-Qaida, Hamas and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, owes much of its ideological success and pseudo-philosophical roots to Nazism.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the 1930s, the mufti of Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, rigorously courted the Nazis. When, in 1936, he launched his terror war against the Jewish Yishuv in the British controlled Palestine Mandate, he repeatedly asked the Nazis for financial backing, which began arriving in 1937.&#8221; &#8220;From 1936-39 Husseini&#8217;s terror army murdered 415 Jews. In later years, Husseini noted that were it not for Nazi money, his onslaught would have been defeated in 1937. His movement was imbued with Nazism. His men saluted one another with Nazi salutes and members of his youth movement sported Hitler Youth uniforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>With this history as a model, the Palestinian Foundational documents which call for the destruction of Israel make a lot of sense. They were not conceived out of the blue, a reaction to the Six-Day-War and occupation, but were the natural denouement that began in 1920, premises taken to their logical conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: jojo</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-16162</link>
		<dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raed, you are like the ultra-nationalists in europe talking about all refugees as &quot;trespassers&quot;, claiming they take &quot;their land&quot; and &quot;their jobs&quot;.
how do you think &quot;nations&quot; come into existence? do you think france or poland just &quot;belonged&quot; to their &quot;peoples&quot; since time immemorial? the way you talk about this rebuilt &quot;palestinian nation&quot;, from which the jews must be expelled, sounds very much like a kahane-zionist. you don&#039;t seem to get the fact that &quot;nations&quot; and &quot;states&quot; are an artificial thing, created through war and peace. palestine could also exist this way - through peace. but not on account of israel. israel is a nation. you must accept that, even if that&#039;s hard for you. even if dimi goes back to russia, he will be a stranger there. i, for one, have roots in this land for over 90 years. where shall i go to? somewhere i don&#039;t even know it&#039;s name in belarus?
expelling 5 million people form their country and making them refugees would be a crime. bringing &quot;justice&quot; by causing a greater, newer injustice to a 3rd generation of people makes very little sense.

you see yourself as palestinian, you want to &quot;return&quot; to palestine? that i can understand. assuming you have no other citizenship, you have my sincere empathy as a stateless person, like most of the jews that emigrated here. and i wish for you that the first palestinian state ever will be established soon. i hope you will emigrate there, and have a great life. but why do you insist on being RACIST and ultra-nationalist?
look at how most jews today see germans nowadays, and that&#039;s after the greatest genocide in documented history, an event &quot;at least&quot; as traumatic as alnakba. why can&#039;t you demand justice, commemorate and cherish your past and your trauma without resorting to such rhetoric?
would you agree to locals wherever YOU live referring to YOU the way you do to israelis?
you are so much in love with victimhood and your dogmatic narrative, that you fail to see that the reality is more complex - just like ultra-nationalists in israel do. most jews that &quot;colonialized&quot; this land, as you say, didn&#039;t come here on an imperialist mission on behalf of an existing jewish empire. they came here as a persecuted people. as refugees.
the way things turned out was never inevitable. the fact that war broke after the partition was rejected by the arab leadership, and that your ancestors lost land wasn&#039;t inherent to zionism.
yes, many wrongs were committed by israel, also in 1948. i&#039;m aware of that. many things make me ashamed. i&#039;m sorry about your family&#039;s loss. but you can&#039;t possibly ask me to understand your demand that i become a refugee myself. the fact that you &quot;dont know anyone who feels differently&quot; is very depressing, if it&#039;s true.
what are you suggesting? you expell me, and after 4 generations my kids will &quot;return&quot; and kick you away? where will that end?
i can listen to your story, and understand much of your pain. it&#039;s true also, that we speak from different positions. unlike you, i understand all of this. i see that this story isn&#039;t black and white. it isn&#039;t not the nazis vs the jews, or ahmadinejad vs the iranian LGBT community.
yet you can&#039;t seem to be willing to look past your hatred and demonization of all &quot;zionists&quot;. and that&#039;s a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raed, you are like the ultra-nationalists in europe talking about all refugees as &#8220;trespassers&#8221;, claiming they take &#8220;their land&#8221; and &#8220;their jobs&#8221;.<br />
how do you think &#8220;nations&#8221; come into existence? do you think france or poland just &#8220;belonged&#8221; to their &#8220;peoples&#8221; since time immemorial? the way you talk about this rebuilt &#8220;palestinian nation&#8221;, from which the jews must be expelled, sounds very much like a kahane-zionist. you don&#8217;t seem to get the fact that &#8220;nations&#8221; and &#8220;states&#8221; are an artificial thing, created through war and peace. palestine could also exist this way &#8211; through peace. but not on account of israel. israel is a nation. you must accept that, even if that&#8217;s hard for you. even if dimi goes back to russia, he will be a stranger there. i, for one, have roots in this land for over 90 years. where shall i go to? somewhere i don&#8217;t even know it&#8217;s name in belarus?<br />
expelling 5 million people form their country and making them refugees would be a crime. bringing &#8220;justice&#8221; by causing a greater, newer injustice to a 3rd generation of people makes very little sense.</p>
<p>you see yourself as palestinian, you want to &#8220;return&#8221; to palestine? that i can understand. assuming you have no other citizenship, you have my sincere empathy as a stateless person, like most of the jews that emigrated here. and i wish for you that the first palestinian state ever will be established soon. i hope you will emigrate there, and have a great life. but why do you insist on being RACIST and ultra-nationalist?<br />
look at how most jews today see germans nowadays, and that&#8217;s after the greatest genocide in documented history, an event &#8220;at least&#8221; as traumatic as alnakba. why can&#8217;t you demand justice, commemorate and cherish your past and your trauma without resorting to such rhetoric?<br />
would you agree to locals wherever YOU live referring to YOU the way you do to israelis?<br />
you are so much in love with victimhood and your dogmatic narrative, that you fail to see that the reality is more complex &#8211; just like ultra-nationalists in israel do. most jews that &#8220;colonialized&#8221; this land, as you say, didn&#8217;t come here on an imperialist mission on behalf of an existing jewish empire. they came here as a persecuted people. as refugees.<br />
the way things turned out was never inevitable. the fact that war broke after the partition was rejected by the arab leadership, and that your ancestors lost land wasn&#8217;t inherent to zionism.<br />
yes, many wrongs were committed by israel, also in 1948. i&#8217;m aware of that. many things make me ashamed. i&#8217;m sorry about your family&#8217;s loss. but you can&#8217;t possibly ask me to understand your demand that i become a refugee myself. the fact that you &#8220;dont know anyone who feels differently&#8221; is very depressing, if it&#8217;s true.<br />
what are you suggesting? you expell me, and after 4 generations my kids will &#8220;return&#8221; and kick you away? where will that end?<br />
i can listen to your story, and understand much of your pain. it&#8217;s true also, that we speak from different positions. unlike you, i understand all of this. i see that this story isn&#8217;t black and white. it isn&#8217;t not the nazis vs the jews, or ahmadinejad vs the iranian LGBT community.<br />
yet you can&#8217;t seem to be willing to look past your hatred and demonization of all &#8220;zionists&#8221;. and that&#8217;s a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Raed Butrus</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14262</link>
		<dc:creator>Raed Butrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koshiro, your arguments are making less and less sense 
You shouldn’t and I fully support your right to your personal property, as well as your right of return....my personal property now contains Tel Avivs David Intercontinental Hotel with lots of people. Since I am the owner, I want these trespassers off my property

But that does not mean that you have a right not to have neighbours you don’t like.... Koreans might not really want Japanese as neighbors. 
I am not asking to choose my neighbors. I just want trespassers off my property, and so do the millions of other Palestinians who lost property. They dont want zionist trespassers on their lands. Thus, the zionists have to return home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshiro, your arguments are making less and less sense<br />
You shouldn’t and I fully support your right to your personal property, as well as your right of return&#8230;.my personal property now contains Tel Avivs David Intercontinental Hotel with lots of people. Since I am the owner, I want these trespassers off my property</p>
<p>But that does not mean that you have a right not to have neighbours you don’t like&#8230;. Koreans might not really want Japanese as neighbors.<br />
I am not asking to choose my neighbors. I just want trespassers off my property, and so do the millions of other Palestinians who lost property. They dont want zionist trespassers on their lands. Thus, the zionists have to return home</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14240</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koshiro, why is it not the Palestinians&#039; business? What&#039;s the difference between Jewish private property lost in Hebron 1929 and Jewish private property lost in Egypt 1950&#039;s and 60&#039;s?
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It is all the same conflict. The Palestinian Arabs regularly claim that they are part of the greater Arab nation (in order to tap the Arab countries sense of brotherhood to support them financially and politically/diplomatically). 
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The biggest chip the Palestinians have is peace and diplomatic relations with the Arab countries (The Saudi Plan). The Arab countries bear responsibility. It was the Palestinians&#039; Arab bretheren that rejected Partition in 1947, something the Palestinians are now embracing. 
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I don&#039;t really expect the Arab countries (and Iran) to compensate the Mizrachim for their property (because they have no leverage). I do expect the Palestinians to get 10&#039;s of billions of dollars. But it doesn&#039;t mean that confiscated Jewish property in the Middle East shouldn&#039;t be discussed within the Israeli-Palestinian conflict discussions. 
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Israel is backed by the US. The PA is backed by the Arab League. If the US is expected to pay the Palestinians, why aren&#039;t the Arab countries (and Iran) expected to pay the Mizrachim? The Palestinian RoR is central to the peace talks. Why aren&#039;t the Mizrachim also central?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshiro, why is it not the Palestinians&#8217; business? What&#8217;s the difference between Jewish private property lost in Hebron 1929 and Jewish private property lost in Egypt 1950&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s?<br />
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It is all the same conflict. The Palestinian Arabs regularly claim that they are part of the greater Arab nation (in order to tap the Arab countries sense of brotherhood to support them financially and politically/diplomatically).<br />
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The biggest chip the Palestinians have is peace and diplomatic relations with the Arab countries (The Saudi Plan). The Arab countries bear responsibility. It was the Palestinians&#8217; Arab bretheren that rejected Partition in 1947, something the Palestinians are now embracing.<br />
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I don&#8217;t really expect the Arab countries (and Iran) to compensate the Mizrachim for their property (because they have no leverage). I do expect the Palestinians to get 10&#8242;s of billions of dollars. But it doesn&#8217;t mean that confiscated Jewish property in the Middle East shouldn&#8217;t be discussed within the Israeli-Palestinian conflict discussions.<br />
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Israel is backed by the US. The PA is backed by the Arab League. If the US is expected to pay the Palestinians, why aren&#8217;t the Arab countries (and Iran) expected to pay the Mizrachim? The Palestinian RoR is central to the peace talks. Why aren&#8217;t the Mizrachim also central?</p>
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		<title>By: Koshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Financing subsistence-level support (which, in case of the Gaza and WB refugees is a courtesy to Israel more than anything) is quite different from compensating people for the loss of their rightful property. The latter is going to expensive.

P.S.: Just to forestall what you&#039;re bound to bring up - that something you are going to bring up is none of the Palestinians&#039; business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Financing subsistence-level support (which, in case of the Gaza and WB refugees is a courtesy to Israel more than anything) is quite different from compensating people for the loss of their rightful property. The latter is going to expensive.</p>
<p>P.S.: Just to forestall what you&#8217;re bound to bring up &#8211; that something you are going to bring up is none of the Palestinians&#8217; business.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koshiro, 

The Europeans and the Americans have been paying the Palestinians since the creation of the UNRWA. What&#039;s the difference between the West paying them now and paying them after a peace agreement is signed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshiro, </p>
<p>The Europeans and the Americans have been paying the Palestinians since the creation of the UNRWA. What&#8217;s the difference between the West paying them now and paying them after a peace agreement is signed?</p>
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		<title>By: Koshiro</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14206</link>
		<dc:creator>Koshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why should I accept anything less than what was stolen from me?&quot;
You shouldn&#039;t and I fully support your right to your personal property, as well as your right of return.
But that does not mean that you have a right not to have neighbours you don&#039;t like. I recognize - and I&#039;m very well grounded in international law here - individual rights. National, collective rights, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why should I accept anything less than what was stolen from me?&#8221;<br />
You shouldn&#8217;t and I fully support your right to your personal property, as well as your right of return.<br />
But that does not mean that you have a right not to have neighbours you don&#8217;t like. I recognize &#8211; and I&#8217;m very well grounded in international law here &#8211; individual rights. National, collective rights, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Koshiro</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14204</link>
		<dc:creator>Koshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Koshiro, 2.5 million refugees? Aren’t there something around 4.5 million refugees?&quot;
Yes, but ~2 million of them live in the West Bank and Gaza already, so they are already part of the demographic balance.

&quot;Do you know how much capital and resources is needed to build homes for that many people.&quot;
A lot. But other schemes that ask for compensating the refugees instead of allowing them to return would take no less. I wouldn&#039;t worry about that, seriously. If Israel tells the US to cough up the money, the US will comply. Maybe they&#039;ll wring something out of Europe and the Arab states, too.

Note that I don&#039;t think that all of the refugees would want to return, especially if they are being offered financial compensation. Of the ~2.5 million refugees living outside of Israel, more than 1.5 million have Jordanian citizenship. Even assuming that some of them do want to return, the total migration to Palestine* would maybe be 1.5 million additional people. 
That is a lot, but not an insurmountable difficulty. The refugee problem is usually blown out of proportion for political reasons. It is definitely solveable within the confines of a right of return, both in a two-state solution (without dismantling Israel!) and a one-state solution.

*In the purely territorial sense of 1947 Mandate Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Koshiro, 2.5 million refugees? Aren’t there something around 4.5 million refugees?&#8221;<br />
Yes, but ~2 million of them live in the West Bank and Gaza already, so they are already part of the demographic balance.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you know how much capital and resources is needed to build homes for that many people.&#8221;<br />
A lot. But other schemes that ask for compensating the refugees instead of allowing them to return would take no less. I wouldn&#8217;t worry about that, seriously. If Israel tells the US to cough up the money, the US will comply. Maybe they&#8217;ll wring something out of Europe and the Arab states, too.</p>
<p>Note that I don&#8217;t think that all of the refugees would want to return, especially if they are being offered financial compensation. Of the ~2.5 million refugees living outside of Israel, more than 1.5 million have Jordanian citizenship. Even assuming that some of them do want to return, the total migration to Palestine* would maybe be 1.5 million additional people.<br />
That is a lot, but not an insurmountable difficulty. The refugee problem is usually blown out of proportion for political reasons. It is definitely solveable within the confines of a right of return, both in a two-state solution (without dismantling Israel!) and a one-state solution.</p>
<p>*In the purely territorial sense of 1947 Mandate Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Raed Butrus</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14201</link>
		<dc:creator>Raed Butrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koshiro, you dont have to accept my argument. It is not your conflict or your land. Why should I accept any increase in population density due to illegal occupants? Why should I accept anything less than what was stolen from me? To make you feel good? There are 6 million illegal immigrants who have overstayed their welcome in Palestine. They need to return home, otherwise there is no end to the conflict. While I dont have statistics, I dont know anyone who feels differently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshiro, you dont have to accept my argument. It is not your conflict or your land. Why should I accept any increase in population density due to illegal occupants? Why should I accept anything less than what was stolen from me? To make you feel good? There are 6 million illegal immigrants who have overstayed their welcome in Palestine. They need to return home, otherwise there is no end to the conflict. While I dont have statistics, I dont know anyone who feels differently</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://972mag.com/ir2/17222/comment-page-1/#comment-14196</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koshiro, 2.5 million refugees? Aren&#039;t there something around 4.5 million refugees?

Do you know how much capital and resources is needed to build homes for that many people? The intake of nearly 1 million Russians of about 10 years was an extraordinary feat. Now you think we can more than double that? The delusions surrounding this issue never stop to amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koshiro, 2.5 million refugees? Aren&#8217;t there something around 4.5 million refugees?</p>
<p>Do you know how much capital and resources is needed to build homes for that many people? The intake of nearly 1 million Russians of about 10 years was an extraordinary feat. Now you think we can more than double that? The delusions surrounding this issue never stop to amaze me.</p>
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