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	<title>Comments on: In Rachel Corrie verdict, Israel deals new blow to international law</title>
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		<title>By: Jared Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thought. As far as I understand what happened, Israel DID do something wrong: it allowed the ISM people to move about on what was in fact part of a battlefield instead of doing what it should have done -- arresting them, jailing them in Israel, and putting them on trial.  As far as I understand what happened -- and please correct me if I am overlooking something -- the only reason Israel did not arrest them is that once again it bowed before the gang-up of manipulated international opinion, the result of which is always that instead of facing a small public relations problem (in this case for arresting these worse-than-maniacs) it faced a much bigger one.  Tolerating this kind of interference in a MILITARY action fuels the idea that said action is illegitimate -- politically harmful even if none of the ISM creatures had been injured or killed. 

-- Jared Israel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thought. As far as I understand what happened, Israel DID do something wrong: it allowed the ISM people to move about on what was in fact part of a battlefield instead of doing what it should have done &#8212; arresting them, jailing them in Israel, and putting them on trial.  As far as I understand what happened &#8212; and please correct me if I am overlooking something &#8212; the only reason Israel did not arrest them is that once again it bowed before the gang-up of manipulated international opinion, the result of which is always that instead of facing a small public relations problem (in this case for arresting these worse-than-maniacs) it faced a much bigger one.  Tolerating this kind of interference in a MILITARY action fuels the idea that said action is illegitimate &#8212; politically harmful even if none of the ISM creatures had been injured or killed. </p>
<p>&#8211; Jared Israel</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding civilian homes and war zones -- if Arab terrorists put the terminals of weapon-smuggling tunnels in people&#039;s homes, which everyone knows they do, then 1)the terrorists are responsible for hostile counter-measures, whether blowing up those homes, flattening them, or whatever -- even if the Israelis sometimes mistakenly target the wrong homes (because the Arab terrorists have made such targeting, and some inevitable errors,  necessary) and 2) the terrorists have made the areas around such homes war zones. If ISM people try to block military counter-measures, they are not defending civilians against anti-humanitarians, they are preventing military measures taken to counter OTHER military measures (eliminating weapons smuggling) --- military measures which, in violation of international law, are hidden in civilian property, thus putting the civilians at risk.  It is the Arab terrorists and the ISM (by aiding them) who put civilians at risk, on the Arab side.  And by the way, Arab terrorists explicitly target Jewish civilians on the grounds -- which I have heard or seen argued a hundred times -- that ALL Israeli civilians are by virtue of nationality enemy combatants. That aside from the fact that Corrie, dwelling in a dangerous fantasy world, basically committed suicide, just as if she had jumped out in front of a bus.         
--Jared Israel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding civilian homes and war zones &#8212; if Arab terrorists put the terminals of weapon-smuggling tunnels in people&#8217;s homes, which everyone knows they do, then 1)the terrorists are responsible for hostile counter-measures, whether blowing up those homes, flattening them, or whatever &#8212; even if the Israelis sometimes mistakenly target the wrong homes (because the Arab terrorists have made such targeting, and some inevitable errors,  necessary) and 2) the terrorists have made the areas around such homes war zones. If ISM people try to block military counter-measures, they are not defending civilians against anti-humanitarians, they are preventing military measures taken to counter OTHER military measures (eliminating weapons smuggling) &#8212; military measures which, in violation of international law, are hidden in civilian property, thus putting the civilians at risk.  It is the Arab terrorists and the ISM (by aiding them) who put civilians at risk, on the Arab side.  And by the way, Arab terrorists explicitly target Jewish civilians on the grounds &#8212; which I have heard or seen argued a hundred times &#8212; that ALL Israeli civilians are by virtue of nationality enemy combatants. That aside from the fact that Corrie, dwelling in a dangerous fantasy world, basically committed suicide, just as if she had jumped out in front of a bus.<br />
&#8211;Jared Israel</p>
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		<title>By: pelsar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pelsar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i noticed that many of the comments and the article itself seem to live in some weird dimension, because they sure dont belong in this reality:

This adult chose to put here self in a war zone, chose to participate and attempted to stop a military operation by standing in front of a large bulldozer with limited vision....

she put herself at risk and what happend is why civilians stay away from war zones, they happen to be very dangerous.....especially when you to actively participate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i noticed that many of the comments and the article itself seem to live in some weird dimension, because they sure dont belong in this reality:</p>
<p>This adult chose to put here self in a war zone, chose to participate and attempted to stop a military operation by standing in front of a large bulldozer with limited vision&#8230;.</p>
<p>she put herself at risk and what happend is why civilians stay away from war zones, they happen to be very dangerous&#8230;..especially when you to actively participate</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love her or hate her, there are two questions:

1) Did Rachel Corrie ignore warnings (including those of her own country) about going into Gaza, let alone in a War Zone and knowingly put herself in danger? Having did a stint of reserved duty in Rafiah myself (about 5 months before this incident happened), I can honestly say Rachel Corrie has no business being there and knowingly put herself in danger by being there.

2) Could the driver of the bulldozer have possibly seen Rachel Corrie?

Having worked on a number of construction sites with bulldozers operating, I say MOST  LIKELY no....

This is NOT to say Rachel Corrie &quot;deserved&quot; to die or that we should rejoice at her fate. This is to say that her death was MOST LIKELY (I wasn&#039;t there at the time and am not G-d) not intentional on the driver&#039;s part.

Yes, the ISM certainly carries no small responsibility for sending those who have come from half-way across the world, are not familiar with the Middle East, let alone Israel/Gaza, straight from an ivory tower into a War Zone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love her or hate her, there are two questions:</p>
<p>1) Did Rachel Corrie ignore warnings (including those of her own country) about going into Gaza, let alone in a War Zone and knowingly put herself in danger? Having did a stint of reserved duty in Rafiah myself (about 5 months before this incident happened), I can honestly say Rachel Corrie has no business being there and knowingly put herself in danger by being there.</p>
<p>2) Could the driver of the bulldozer have possibly seen Rachel Corrie?</p>
<p>Having worked on a number of construction sites with bulldozers operating, I say MOST  LIKELY no&#8230;.</p>
<p>This is NOT to say Rachel Corrie &#8220;deserved&#8221; to die or that we should rejoice at her fate. This is to say that her death was MOST LIKELY (I wasn&#8217;t there at the time and am not G-d) not intentional on the driver&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>Yes, the ISM certainly carries no small responsibility for sending those who have come from half-way across the world, are not familiar with the Middle East, let alone Israel/Gaza, straight from an ivory tower into a War Zone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israeli Arab citizens already have the same judicial standing as all other citizens. I have no idea what you are waiting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli Arab citizens already have the same judicial standing as all other citizens. I have no idea what you are waiting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Kolumn9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolumn9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was a retard who put herself in a warzone at the service of any and all enemies of Israel and didn&#039;t have the sense to move out of the way of a military bulldozer going at 1 mph. Good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was a retard who put herself in a warzone at the service of any and all enemies of Israel and didn&#8217;t have the sense to move out of the way of a military bulldozer going at 1 mph. Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: AJS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it was her fault she died.  What an idiot!  I totally agree with the court ruling.  Normal people, when confronted with imminent danger, usually get out of the way.  Duh! And, to now find out that she gave that British jerk the bullhorn just moments before.... why didn&#039;t he scream to the driver to stop?  It&#039;s obvious that she willingly gave her life (committed suicide) for her cause: the demonizing of Israel.  As Golda Meir famously remarked: there will be peace when they (the Arabs and their leftist cohorts) love their children more than they hate us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it was her fault she died.  What an idiot!  I totally agree with the court ruling.  Normal people, when confronted with imminent danger, usually get out of the way.  Duh! And, to now find out that she gave that British jerk the bullhorn just moments before&#8230;. why didn&#8217;t he scream to the driver to stop?  It&#8217;s obvious that she willingly gave her life (committed suicide) for her cause: the demonizing of Israel.  As Golda Meir famously remarked: there will be peace when they (the Arabs and their leftist cohorts) love their children more than they hate us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miguel, I really think you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about. The Jewish religious notion of being special, doesn&#039;t have much to do with superiority, much more with having a special designation in the world. This is of course interpreted in a simpler manner by simple people. In any case, this notion surely doesn&#039;t affect our dealings with our neighbors. I&#039;ve spent enough years in the IDF and in Israel and I&#039;ve never witnessed a thought of &quot;We&#039;re superior, others may die&quot;

Let&#039;s see:
1. You live in a distant country
2. You probably have no idea what&#039;s going on here, besides what&#039;s the press and sites like these feed you
3. You don&#039;t know what really happened in this case because you were not there
4. You didn&#039;t even read the verdict, to try and see if it makes sense

And yet you have the audacity to make claims about the Justice Israeli citizens receive?! Or compare us to Nazis based on your own opinion of how we perceive ourselves to be superior?!

WOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miguel, I really think you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about. The Jewish religious notion of being special, doesn&#8217;t have much to do with superiority, much more with having a special designation in the world. This is of course interpreted in a simpler manner by simple people. In any case, this notion surely doesn&#8217;t affect our dealings with our neighbors. I&#8217;ve spent enough years in the IDF and in Israel and I&#8217;ve never witnessed a thought of &#8220;We&#8217;re superior, others may die&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see:<br />
1. You live in a distant country<br />
2. You probably have no idea what&#8217;s going on here, besides what&#8217;s the press and sites like these feed you<br />
3. You don&#8217;t know what really happened in this case because you were not there<br />
4. You didn&#8217;t even read the verdict, to try and see if it makes sense</p>
<p>And yet you have the audacity to make claims about the Justice Israeli citizens receive?! Or compare us to Nazis based on your own opinion of how we perceive ourselves to be superior?!</p>
<p>WOW.</p>
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		<title>By: DEF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overbearing ignorance of most of these comments is staggering - Israel is a democracy with an independent judiciary - one that has, time and time again, decided cases against the army and government - 

The Corries, while perversely soaking up the limelight, can (and likely will) still appeal to the Israeli Supreme court - read the actual judge&#039;s opinion - read just a bit about the history of the Israeli judicial system -

Israel has a strong and vocal core of support for Palestinian rights and most Israelis firmly support a two-state solution.

Where exactly are the Arab moderates?

ISM might want to grow a pair and go defend minority rights in Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Iran, or a few other places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overbearing ignorance of most of these comments is staggering &#8211; Israel is a democracy with an independent judiciary &#8211; one that has, time and time again, decided cases against the army and government &#8211; </p>
<p>The Corries, while perversely soaking up the limelight, can (and likely will) still appeal to the Israeli Supreme court &#8211; read the actual judge&#8217;s opinion &#8211; read just a bit about the history of the Israeli judicial system -</p>
<p>Israel has a strong and vocal core of support for Palestinian rights and most Israelis firmly support a two-state solution.</p>
<p>Where exactly are the Arab moderates?</p>
<p>ISM might want to grow a pair and go defend minority rights in Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Iran, or a few other places.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Volp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Volp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly David was also like Rachel no rational person would dare face a Goliath. Accordingly if Goliath had killed him, that would have been Davids fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly David was also like Rachel no rational person would dare face a Goliath. Accordingly if Goliath had killed him, that would have been Davids fault.</p>
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