Comments on: If gov’t had its way, Israel would rightfully be on UN list of human rights abusers

By: Abigail

Abigail — Tue, 08 May 2012 14:51:07 +0000

Are Caden and Max here because of the Israeli propaganda machine which decided to have Israeli nonsense put on sites like this? You two, take a lot at other websites like the ones from Physicians for Human Rights, Rabbis for Human Rights, B’Tselem, Breaking the Silence, HaMoked. It is in Hebrew and in English. And then do some massive overhaul of your history knowledge instead of the corny old playing the victim (you omitted the A-word: Anti-semitism and the H-word: the Holocaust: did they teach you to do that? Must be paying a lot. But really, you basically try to distract people from the topic at hand: not clever.)

By: Jack

Jack — Sun, 06 May 2012 21:22:09 +0000

Caden,
UN have the authority of this world with UNSC. Of course you are going to discredit UN since they condemn Israel for crimes.

By: max

max — Sun, 06 May 2012 19:55:24 +0000

Cortez – I wonder what info you have in front of you to justify your statements.
Israel isn’t on top (that is, negative score) of any ranking for Human Rights abuse; in fact, it’s ranked better than some EU countries. On some lists, it is the only ME country designated as _free_ (Russian and China are not).
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The vast majority of people live in countries with worse HR abuses, the vast majority of countries rank worse than Israel for HR abuses.
Simple, verifiable facts.

By: Cortez

Cortez — Sun, 06 May 2012 19:39:50 +0000

@caden
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But it is a worthy institution at least in the humans rights and humanitarian area. Obviously it’s not perfect but many of the people there care about the livelihood and future of people in the opt and Israel. A lot of the treaty language and focuses against religious, racial and ethnic discrimination and unnecessary wars came out the experience from World war II. So yes it does have moral authority to the extent that it’s kept consistent with pursuit against bad government policies which lead to hate, war and generally bad outcomes.

By: caden

caden — Sun, 06 May 2012 18:34:25 +0000

Cortez, you keep talking about the UN like its a worthy institution with
s ome sort of moral authority. It’s neither, its a sad joke. And has been for some time

By: Cortez

Cortez — Sun, 06 May 2012 13:20:49 +0000

I think part of it has to do with the fact the Israel also has a long history with human rights violations and has ideology uniquely premised on the exclusion of other religious/ethnic groups(despite their enduring presence). Most of it not all of its neighbors, despite having what I see to be worse human rights violations than Israel, either are big on forcing everyone to conform (and convert) and/or they also have big tent nationalities (I.e. Lebanese and Egyptian people are made up off different religions and ethnic groups). This has little to do with Judaism and everything to do with Ashkenazi and zionism. The UN has seen how destructive racial discrimination is in Germany, South Africa and Liberia and has concluded that it only leads to destruction and pain. In addition, the UN cares about indigenous groups too because they seem to get the worst of it and it’s no different in Israel or Jordan for that matter when one thinks about the Bedouins. Not that everyone else isn’t indigenous but those who remain agricultural and live different lifestyles get the worst discrimination. And the refugee situation just makes it worse because Israel never attempted to welcome them back the natives and now it’s the biggest refugee crisis in the Middle East.
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I don’t think the UN would care so much if there wasn’t a refugee crisis or if Israel decide to accept all Palestinins as Jewish people or to put the under the Zonist umbrella or tried to give them equal rights(or sneakily giving them less rights while proclaiming that all people are equal or Jews). It would be like any group in the middle east that treats minorities like shit which has its own host of problems but is much different then wholesale racial supperiority. If Israel was just a country of mizrahim and Muslims (which would essentially just be Arab Jews and Arab Muslims) it would be a joke different story.

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 05 May 2012 21:09:51 +0000

Max,
Your input didnt make much sense. If you want a civilized debate go ahead.
If you had read my message, Syria, Sudan, Myanmar have all been economic sanctioned and even condemned compared to Israel.

By: max

max — Sat, 05 May 2012 20:37:19 +0000

Jack, your comments and the ignorance they exhibit are always refreshing But maybe you do collect knowledge? The UNHRC was established in 2006.
I’d also like to thank you for letting us know that in your opinion Israel’s record is worse than that of Sudan, Syria, and Myanmar.

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 05 May 2012 18:33:20 +0000

Max,
Wow the pro-israeli western states and their lackey in place have condemned this organ. Says alot.
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The facts are still there, there are violations by Israel probably more than any other state because compared to other states, there is a time when the same western states and their lackey in place impose economic sanctions or other penalties, so of course you are seeing condemnation of Israel every year because they never follow the law and earlier resolutions. Many resolutions go back to 1967 war for example. If there were sanctions/penalties, Israel would have respected the law and thus wouldnt be a topic for UN at all. Its like a criminal saying a police is biased because they want to catch him for the continued crimes he commit.

By: Palestinian

Palestinian — Sat, 05 May 2012 15:48:02 +0000

The imported Russian devil