Comments on: IDF mum on Eilat attacks that justified Gaza bombing

By: John Somebody

John Somebody — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:12:05 +0000

Oh alright, so we can’t knows what’s really happened, when the players involved are so devious.

But hang on. I don’t need to be a proffessor of astronomy, to know that the moon is not made of cheese. And I don’t need to have seen the bottom of any village pond, with my own eyes, to know that the round yellow thing in the sky at night, is not a reflection of something in any village pond, anywhere in the world.

So, I don’t need to be an Israeli historian to know that Palestine was never invaded by Palestinians. Palestine was never wiped off the map, by Palestinians. So, I do know, that Israel could not exist, without ethnic “cleansing”, which could not happen, without racially motivated murder. So Israel could not exist, without acts of genocide. And Israel could not continue to exist, without sustaining an artificial, undemocratic majority, without artificially reducing the Palestinian population, with more racially motivated murder, ethnic “cleansing”, “silent transfer”, and behaving as though Jewish Israeli lives are more important, than Palestinian ones.

Israel is unique, on this planet, in such a dependancy. And I don’t need to be God, to know that much.

By: Bosko

Bosko — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:40:09 +0000

What do I mean? I mean that pretending
that one has no enemies, does not mean that it’s true. It just means that one allows one to be chewed up (used) and be spat out (done away with after on’s usefulness has passed).

By: Bosko

Bosko — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:13:40 +0000

“sorry this is off topic to post. how to tie it back. we need to stop being reactive, and start acting from our moral core”
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We also need to recognise reality and deal with it. Pretending that a problem or problems don’t exist, has never solved such problem/s.

By: AYLA

AYLA — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:00:58 +0000

“Ignorance is not knowing anything and being attracted to the good. Innocence is knowing everything and still being attracted to the good.” –Clarissa Pinkola Estés.
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Keys to maintaining youthful openness: 1) nature. living in and with it. 2) constant exposure to new ideas and goodness-seeking people with different backgrounds than your own. (and in the case of this conflict, if you’re jewish, make a good number of those people palestinian. my closest friends here are jewish, muslim, and christian. with overlap: bedouin, ethiopian, israeli, palestinian). 3) doing, vs. theorizing. 4) breaking out of the life you believe you’re supposed to live, to make yourself available to the life that is waiting for you (paraphrased by memory from Rabbi Alan Lew). Trust yourself / expect the best / now is the moment of power –american spiritual teacher named Hawk.
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be very, very wary of me . I am considerably over 40, and I have spiritual teacher named Hawk . I also teach at a university and can’t stand peace retreats unless they have serious, challenging content. The activist I most relate to is David Grossman. I’m a fiction writer; I am able to empathize with everyone. That’s how we are.
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sorry this is off topic to post. how to tie it back. we need to stop being reactive, and start acting from our moral core.

By: Bosko

Bosko — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:14:21 +0000

Greg Pollock said …
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“By phrasing things this way you prohibit Arabs who might not want such a thing”
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C’mon Greg, don’t you think that’s just a bit over dramatising things? Uttering reality perpetuates the conflict? Isn’t it more a case of identifying the problem before one can deal with it? Putting one’s head in the sand and pretending, has never solved anything.

By: Greg Pollock

Greg Pollock — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:25:59 +0000

Bosko,
A “zero sum” tribal war for all or nothing is just a mini race war. By phrasing things this way you prohibit Arabs who might not want such a thing. Effectively, you enable the very kind of Arab you must fight.
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Ayla,
My age is the reverse of yours, and I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA, one of the more conservative States in the Union (but there seem to be more of them these days…). Well, you sound innocent. Maybe you have found a way to keep it these years. More reason to be warry of you!
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By the way: soldiers die for their country, and more will, because there is no end in sight. Those following the path of nonviolence may also die. I sometimes fear what will happen if nonviolence grows; for people will die. As I guess I have said before, for a while, no matter the path, people will die. Nonviolence is confrontation, and some will be enraged at that.

By: AYLA

AYLA — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:20:10 +0000

well, SHUSHAN, whose comment has apparently not yet been detected by 972 or surely they’d have deleted it for racist content… if a few murderers attack a bus, and Israel responds by dropping bombs on a population who had nothing to do with it, thus killing a ten year old boy and others, some of us might find that to be morally reprehensible. Just about as reprehensible as your comment.

By: shushan

shushan — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:28:56 +0000

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By: Bosko

Bosko — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:30:06 +0000

Richardnyc
I agree totally.

By: RichardNYC

RichardNYC — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:04:21 +0000

@BOSKO
“What worked for one conflict is not the solution for this other conflict.”
–>the biggest obstacle to solving the conflict is the word “solution.”