10 comments for ”Hanukkah uncensored, part 1: The Festival of Lights’ darker truth“

    
  1. The real story of Hannukkah is not literal, not historical, not political.

    It is the story of light itself, hope in the face of hopelessness.

  2. 
  3. Whenever the Jews try to assimilate into the host culture and discard any sign of Jewishness (not to be confused with being productive citizens of whatever country, while remaining committed Jews), nothing ever came of it but trouble. Two thousand years ago, it was discarding any sign of Judaism and becoming more Hellenist than the Hellenists. Every generation since, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Chag Orim Sameach to all :-)

  4. 
  5. It is evident that some commenters never read ‘history’ and would much rather promote the myth. The Maccabean revolt was much more a Jewish civil war than anything else. And prettifying it, ignoring the truth to promote a xenophobic rewriting of facts and raising ‘belief’ into unquestioned dogma, does little or nothing to move any discourse forward. Both the Book of Daniel and 1st Maccabees were written from a certain POLITICAL point of view. They are not unbiased historical sources but were written to promote a certain view, and ‘religious’ justification for that view.

  6. 
  7. Mikesailor, if you are responding to my post, you obviously didn’t read it….

  8. 
  9. Or you could say that every time fanatical puritans rise up in arms among the Jews, nothing ever comes from it but trouble.

  10. 
  11. It’s interesting. Back then, it was the Hellenizers who wanted to restrict the freedom of those who believed differently than them. Today it’s the opposite.

  12. 
  13. “It’s interesting. Back then, it was the Hellenizers who wanted to restrict the freedom of those who believed differently than them. Today it’s the opposite.” [End of Rechavia Berman] It’s interesting, in our lifetime (at least my lifetime) the KGB wanted to extinguish Judaism in the FSU. Guess what?!?! The FSU is no more and Chabad is flourishing there :-)

  14. 
  15. “Restricting the freedom to believe” is a modernist perspective completely foreign to the times and mores of both the Hellenists and the Cohanim who opposed them. There is much to much Israeli rhetoric that would have Israel become a mini-America with entrenched rights. It sounds great in theory, especially if you’re on the Israeli near-left, but the tables can turn quickly and frequently do. What will work to your advantage today will disadvantage you tomorrow, so be careful what you wish for — you might get it!

    The Cohanut understood Hellenism in a way the Rabanut finds appalling. The Cohanim did not find anything particularly distasteful about Greek culture or religion. We’ll never know precisely what Matityahu’s war was about but it has a prophetic zeal to it that reminds me of Eliahu’s hatred for Yzevel and her retinue. It is thus entirely correct to suggest that the Hashmonim were fighting a civil war.

    Does this terrify any of you? It terrifies me and I live in Canada!

  16. 
  17. Interesting to read a critical review of Hannuka next to a positive review of christmas.

    Can’t wait for the Id el Adha Special

  18. 
  19. Mitchell, first you said Judaism and then you said Chabad – which is it? :-P



Leave a comment