Israel’s hands are tied by settler-nationalist-territorial politics, USA’s hands are tied by our disgusting oligarchic political system which gives direction on I/P to APIAC. If there is power anywhere, it is outside the USA/Israel governance.

Israeli lefties should appeal to it directly and with as much force and noise as Marwan Barghouti used to appeal from a jail cell to Palestinians to bravely confront Israel (and stop cooperating with it).

What it looks like is what it is – two populations living uncomfortably in one land. The stronger one expanding at will, the weaker disenfranchised, bullied and struggling.

Rodrigo, I think you are both right and wrong. Technically Israel does not control the PA, but practically speaking, the PA can do nothing without the say-so of Israel and the IDF. In that respect it is like the South African plan to give the different racial groups their own parliaments but then ensure that they were all weaker than the white parliament. On one hand that gives the dominant group the upper hand whilst at the same time some deniability as to what actually happens within the PA controlled areas.

This is most plainly seen with respect to the security and policing functions. Inside the PA areas, Palestinian police occasionally arrest the odd Israeli car and immediately escort the occupants back to the IDF checkpoints. At the same time, the IDF can raid inside PA areas at will. It would be impossible to imagine the reverse happening.

Look at the difference between the outcomes in Australia and South Africa, look at the issues Israel historically 1947 and 1967, contrasts between Israel and the West Back.

As long as they hold the belief that via resistance be it armed or passive they will get the land back. They will never make peace, not real peace each concession Israel makes in the search for peace is views as stepping stone of resistance. That is why the land concessions have failed. Mazen had East Jerusalem under Olmert and he did not make a deal, so he now has lost it under Netanyahu. Same with the temporary settlement freeze.

Now he waits for President Flexibilities second term. Apartheid strategy, President Flexibility, UN sanctions, BDS. Israel will not submit to pressure of this kind, so they will continue the policy until the cost is too high and it collapses overnight, like East Germany and South Africa. Which means millions of settler will be left in the West Bank and the UN will not be dealing with Israel but with the settlers. They will have to make a deal between the settlers and the Palestinians. Palestine as a state will included both Jews and Palestinians as will the Parliament and government just like unified Germany and South Africa.

In the end there will be no state for only Palestinians, a one state solution in relation to Palestine not Israel.

It is not a strategy I would advise because it does not achieve liberation of Palestine or a exclusive Palestinian State. It results in a Two State Solution, not a One State Solution in relation to Israel. A Two State Solution between Israel and Palestine and a One State Solution between the settlers and Palestinians. Unless that is the outcome the Palestinians want, it is a flawed strategy.

This isn’t a case of India and Pakistan disputing over Kashmir. Even within the UN, the West Bank is not filed under the territorial disputes committee (Jerusalem is another issue though).

If I were you I wouldn’t proclaim the TSS dead so quick.. coz if I read “Palestinian” and “Zayzafuna” latest posts here, the 1SS implementation would mean your having to see your travel agent and buy a 1WT ( translate : one way ticket).

ALSO SEE: “Bibi and the Yo-Yos”, by Uri Avnery, Antiwar.com, 05/26/11
(excerpt) It was all rather disgusting.
There they were, the members of the highest legislative bodies of the world’s only superpower, flying up and down like so many yo-yos, applauding wildly, every few minutes or seconds, the most outrageous lies and distortions of Binyamin Netanyahu.
It was worse than the Syrian parliament during a speech by Bashar Assad, where anyone not applauding could find himself in prison. Or Stalin’s Supreme Soviet, when showing less than sufficient respect could have meant death.
What the American Senators and Congressmen feared was a fate worse than death. Anyone remaining seated or not applauding wildly enough could have been caught on camera – and that amounts to political suicide. It was enough for one single congressman to rise and applaud, and all the others had to follow suit. Who would dare not to?
The sight of these hundreds of parliamentarians jumping up and clapping their hands, again and again and again and again, with the Leader graciously acknowledging with a movement of his hand, was reminiscent of other regimes. Only this time it was not the local dictator who compelled this adulation, but a foreign one.
The most depressing part of it was that there was not a single lawmaker – Republican or Democrat – who dared to resist. When I was a 9 year old boy in Germany, I dared to leave my right arm hanging by my side when all my schoolmates raised theirs in the Nazi salute and sang Hitler’s anthem. Is there no one in Washington DC who has that simple courage? Is it really Washington IOT – Israel Occupied Territory – as the anti-Semites assert? . . .

Aresteides, the fate of the West Bank will be determined in future negotiations. Realistically Israel’s interests are going to have to be taken into account.

Ariel Sharon removed settlements. Menachem Begin did it before him. I get it. You don’t like the current government, but you can’t argue that Israel hasn’t repeatedly removed settlements where needed.

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Further, Israel’s “demonstrated ability” to remove settlements is nothing but a farce. Ariel Sharon could remove settlements. Ariel Sharon is now a rutabaga. The current government plays a game of knocking down a trailer, then looking the other way while the denizens crawl back out from under the rocks and put it up again.

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In the meantime, house by house, field by field, hill by hill, well by well, the settlers take over Palestinian land.