Comments on: Disappearing articles and the dead prisoner affair (‘Mr. X’): A timeline http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:10:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Leen http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108502 Leen Thu, 14 Feb 2013 06:40:47 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108502 Even dual citizens have to according to customary law. Plus the use of Australian passport to infiltrate Iran and Syria are a sore point for Australia. They even have a whole department to monitor unlawful use of Australian passports. As for the trial, you don't know either and again you are assuming. I simply listed the possible international law violations. There are probably many to follow should people know about the case. Even dual citizens have to according to customary law. Plus the use of Australian passport to infiltrate Iran and Syria are a sore point for Australia. They even have a whole department to monitor unlawful use of Australian passports.

As for the trial, you don’t know either and again you are assuming. I simply listed the possible international law violations. There are probably many to follow should people know about the case.

]]> By: Giaus Gracchus http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108439 Giaus Gracchus Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:36:24 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108439 Der Spiegel, the German magazine, usually does a good job on these stories. But today's story lacks details. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/toter-australier-israel-kippt-nachrichtensperre-um-agentenaffaere-a-883151.html Der Spiegel, the German magazine, usually does a good job on these stories. But today’s story lacks details.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/toter-australier-israel-kippt-nachrichtensperre-um-agentenaffaere-a-883151.html

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108409 Kolumn9 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:12:07 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108409 When you find a 'true democracy' let me know. And be careful with your examples since I can go back to the 1940s to find interesting cases of how 'true democracies' treated elements in their population accused of treason. When you find a ‘true democracy’ let me know. And be careful with your examples since I can go back to the 1940s to find interesting cases of how ‘true democracies’ treated elements in their population accused of treason.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108401 Kolumn9 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:42:52 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108401 Again, as an Israeli citizen he gets to be treated as an Israeli citizen and not as a foreign national. This is customary international law. You do not have any information about the legal framework according to which he was processed. Neither do the Australian media or the Israeli media. Here you are just presuming things. Again, as an Israeli citizen he gets to be treated as an Israeli citizen and not as a foreign national. This is customary international law.

You do not have any information about the legal framework according to which he was processed. Neither do the Australian media or the Israeli media. Here you are just presuming things.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108398 Kolumn9 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:32:05 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108398 More crap. He was an Israeli citizen not a 'foreign national'. His dual citizenship means the Israelis get to treat him as an Israeli and disregard his foreign passport. Notification in such cases is voluntary and in any case according to the Aussies they were notified. More crap. He was an Israeli citizen not a ‘foreign national’. His dual citizenship means the Israelis get to treat him as an Israeli and disregard his foreign passport. Notification in such cases is voluntary and in any case according to the Aussies they were notified.

]]> By: sh http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108391 sh Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:45:12 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108391 I call being nabbed and kept locked up without anyone knowing about it, not even his prison guards, kidnap. In a normal, supposedly democratic country you're arrested and charged or, if you're not charged, freed after whatever lawful time-frame for detention has expired. I call being nabbed and kept locked up without anyone knowing about it, not even his prison guards, kidnap. In a normal, supposedly democratic country you’re arrested and charged or, if you’re not charged, freed after whatever lawful time-frame for detention has expired.

]]> By: Jonny http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108385 Jonny Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:03:44 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108385 So it's started. It is not unusual to keep Palestinian prisoners without trial and now Israelis can be held in this way. Not the actions of a true dmocracy. You have to wonder what he knew or what he did to keep him isloated & not bring him to trial. And the fact he committed suicide in a prison designed to prevent that is suspicious but not proof he didn't. So it’s started. It is not unusual to keep Palestinian prisoners without trial and now Israelis can be held in this way. Not the actions of a true dmocracy.

You have to wonder what he knew or what he did to keep him isloated & not bring him to trial. And the fact he committed suicide in a prison designed to prevent that is suspicious but not proof he didn’t.

]]> By: m haroun http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108373 m haroun Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:01:37 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108373 september 11 2001 september 11 2001

]]> By: Leen http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108362 Leen Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:50:12 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108362 According to customary internatonal law, when a foreign national is arrested and/or dies in prison, the national's country must be informed by the host country. Israel has not done that. Also Articles 9.3 and 9.4 (of Internationa Convention on Civil and Political rights) impose procedural safeguards around arrest, requiring anyone arrested to be promptly informed of the charges against them, and to be brought promptly before a judge. Israel is a signatory of this convention and according to reports, there was no trial nor was he brought before a judge. According to customary internatonal law, when a foreign national is arrested and/or dies in prison, the national’s country must be informed by the host country. Israel has not done that.

Also

Articles 9.3 and 9.4 (of Internationa Convention on Civil and Political rights) impose procedural safeguards around arrest, requiring anyone arrested to be promptly informed of the charges against them, and to be brought promptly before a judge.

Israel is a signatory of this convention and according to reports, there was no trial nor was he brought before a judge.

]]> By: Leen http://972mag.com/disappearing-articles-on-the-affair-of-a-dead-prisoner-mr-x-a-timeline/65926/comment-page-1/#comment-108360 Leen Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:45:20 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=65926#comment-108360 that;s what i started getting suspicious. Apparently the prison has 24 hour surveillance to ensure inmates do NOT commit suicide. What a fishy story. that;s what i started getting suspicious. Apparently the prison has 24 hour surveillance to ensure inmates do NOT commit suicide. What a fishy story.

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