Comments on: Gov’t interrogations decision will prompt increased use of torture http://972mag.com/decision-on-interrogation-recording-will-prompt-increased-use-of-torture/38816/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:24:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: directrob http://972mag.com/decision-on-interrogation-recording-will-prompt-increased-use-of-torture/38816/comment-page-1/#comment-50356 directrob Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:21:48 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=38816#comment-50356 "“according to law” and under conditions of “necessity”" . Actually it is no secret that Israel seems to like torture by necessity. I can understand they do not like cameras. I do not want to understand why nobody is prosecuted and that there is no public outrage. . "According to official data published in July 2002, 90 Palestinian detainees had been interrogated under the "ticking bomb" exception since September 1999." . "... the Committee notes the State party's continued argument that the Convention is not applicable to the West Bank or the Gaza Strip..." . "... the Committee further recalls the absolute nature of the prohibition of torture contained in article 2, paragraph 2 of the Convention..." . See:CAT/C/ISR/CO/4 (meeting of 15-05-2009) ““according to law” and under conditions of “necessity””
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Actually it is no secret that Israel seems to like torture by necessity. I can understand they do not like cameras. I do not want to understand why nobody is prosecuted and that there is no public outrage.
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“According to official data published in July 2002, 90 Palestinian detainees had been interrogated under the “ticking bomb” exception since September 1999.”
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“… the Committee notes the State party’s continued argument that the Convention is not applicable to the West Bank or the Gaza Strip…”
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“… the Committee further recalls the absolute nature of the prohibition of torture contained in article 2, paragraph 2 of the Convention…”
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See:CAT/C/ISR/CO/4 (meeting of 15-05-2009)

]]> By: Louis http://972mag.com/decision-on-interrogation-recording-will-prompt-increased-use-of-torture/38816/comment-page-1/#comment-50243 Louis Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:37:09 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=38816#comment-50243 The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel views the Ministerial Committee For Legislation's decision to support legislation allowing security authorities to refrain from recording the interrogation of individuals arrested and interrogated as security suspects to be yet another nail in the coffin of accountability. The State of Israel has consistently rejected every complaint of torture and ill treatment of "security suspects" over more than a decade. After over 750 such instances in which the State either denies the allegations or claims that the interrogation were conducted "according to law" and under conditions of "necessity" one wonders what it is the State continues to hide. Documentation of interrogations is an important tool in the prevention of torture and ill treatment. We wonder if the State's desire to avoid implementing such a monitoring mechanism actually belies the State of Israel's declared commitment to the international and absolute prohibition of torture and ill treatment. On Impunity see: http://www.stoptorture.org.il/files/PCATI_eng_web.pdf The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel views the Ministerial Committee For Legislation’s decision to support legislation allowing security authorities to refrain from recording the interrogation of individuals arrested and interrogated as security suspects to be yet another nail in the coffin of accountability. The State of Israel has consistently rejected every complaint of torture and ill treatment of “security suspects” over more than a decade. After over 750 such instances in which the State either denies the allegations or claims that the interrogation were conducted “according to law” and under conditions of “necessity” one wonders what it is the State continues to hide. Documentation of interrogations is an important tool in the prevention of torture and ill treatment. We wonder if the State’s desire to avoid implementing such a monitoring mechanism actually belies the State of Israel’s declared commitment to the international and absolute prohibition of torture and ill treatment.

On Impunity see: http://www.stoptorture.org.il/files/PCATI_eng_web.pdf

]]> By: Greg Pollock http://972mag.com/decision-on-interrogation-recording-will-prompt-increased-use-of-torture/38816/comment-page-1/#comment-50192 Greg Pollock Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:44:00 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=38816#comment-50192 Facts will cease to have meaning; they will be constructed for outcomes unfathomable to those on the outside of the system. To please a superior, to force a hunch into reality, to take revenge against someone not even there and, yes, to save lives. It will be impossible to verify, even ask, which condition obtains. And so the last, saving lives, will be the only one asserted. . Yes, Yossi, there are witches against Israel. And some of them work for the State. Facts will cease to have meaning; they will be constructed for outcomes unfathomable to those on the outside of the system. To please a superior, to force a hunch into reality, to take revenge against someone not even there and, yes, to save lives. It will be impossible to verify, even ask, which condition obtains. And so the last, saving lives, will be the only one asserted.
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Yes, Yossi, there are witches against Israel. And some of them work for the State.

]]> By: directrob http://972mag.com/decision-on-interrogation-recording-will-prompt-increased-use-of-torture/38816/comment-page-1/#comment-50061 directrob Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:30:18 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=38816#comment-50061 The links are broken (I guess they need a slash in front) The links are broken (I guess they need a slash in front)

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