Comments on: Call to action: Protest the demolition of entire Palestinian village http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:08:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Save Susya campaign: Over 12,000 faxes annoy Defense Ministry 26Jul12 | Australians for Palestine http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-69751 Save Susya campaign: Over 12,000 faxes annoy Defense Ministry 26Jul12 | Australians for Palestine Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:02:06 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-69751 [...] protest plan to demolish entire Palestinian village Call to action: Protest the demolition of entire Palestinian village Palestinian from Area C describes a life in constant need of rebuilding South Hebron Hills: A [...] [...] protest plan to demolish entire Palestinian village Call to action: Protest the demolition of entire Palestinian village Palestinian from Area C describes a life in constant need of rebuilding South Hebron Hills: A [...]

]]> By: Arib http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-66225 Arib Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:49:46 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-66225 SH, what wilderness? they don't need Israel to build them replacement houses they all have houses in the nearby village of Yatta. Get your facts right. All you are defending is a blatant land grab by residents of Yatta SH, what wilderness? they don’t need Israel to build them replacement houses they all have houses in the nearby village of Yatta. Get your facts right. All you are defending is a blatant land grab by residents of Yatta

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-66067 Kolumn9 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:05:09 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-66067 Greg, use rights are absolutely not absolute. In any and all places they are superceded to planning and other regulations by the powers that be. This is especially the case in setting up villages or towns since sooner or later these need to be connected to water and electricity networks such as the one Israel built in the West Bank since 1967. In other words, houses can be built illegally even on one own's land as is the case here. Greg, use rights are absolutely not absolute. In any and all places they are superceded to planning and other regulations by the powers that be. This is especially the case in setting up villages or towns since sooner or later these need to be connected to water and electricity networks such as the one Israel built in the West Bank since 1967. In other words, houses can be built illegally even on one own’s land as is the case here.

]]> By: sh http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-66009 sh Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:56:21 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-66009 For each house demolished in Migron and Ulpana several houses will be built for each family evicted and they will be housed meanwhile. The inhabitants of Susya are being sent out into the wilderness with no provision for their survival and no sign of an offer of alternative housing. The racism and total disrespect for human life when It's not Jewish is palpable. For each house demolished in Migron and Ulpana several houses will be built for each family evicted and they will be housed meanwhile. The inhabitants of Susya are being sent out into the wilderness with no provision for their survival and no sign of an offer of alternative housing. The racism and total disrespect for human life when It’s not Jewish is palpable.

]]> By: Arib http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65932 Arib Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:49:52 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65932 Wow, when you replace the word Palestinian with Jew and the name Susya with Migron or Ulpana. how different the response. The anti-semitism is palpable. Wow, when you replace the word Palestinian with Jew and the name Susya with Migron or Ulpana. how different the response. The anti-semitism is palpable.

]]> By: Palestinian http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65910 Palestinian Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:27:24 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65910 "The absence of permission from the authorities for construction is sufficient and the authorities here as per the Oslo Accords is the Israeli Civil Administration (aka the IDF" ........permission ? we have to take permision from the thieves to build on our own land ?do Israelis take permission from the Palestinians when they build anywhere in Palestine ?what kind of justice or logic do people like K9 have ?! “The absence of permission from the authorities for construction is sufficient and the authorities here as per the Oslo Accords is the Israeli Civil Administration (aka the IDF” ……..permission ? we have to take permision from the thieves to build on our own land ?do Israelis take permission from the Palestinians when they build anywhere in Palestine ?what kind of justice or logic do people like K9 have ?!

]]> By: Mairav Zonszein http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65847 Mairav Zonszein Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:39:41 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65847 @Joel, according to OCHA figures for 2012, there are 350 Palestinians living in Susya. @Joel, according to OCHA figures for 2012, there are 350 Palestinians living in Susya.

]]> By: Greg Pollock http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65827 Greg Pollock Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:41:44 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65827 K9, . Actually ownership is quite relevant. There are use rights with ownership. Voiding those rights by an Accord that Israel has essentially abrogated is not a strong legal argument. (Go back to Bibi I and ask when Oslo was violated on tax transfers.) You are, however, quite right to be worried about ownership claims: you've seen how your Court can pivot on that issue, and we wouldn't want to slow down the expunging of residents who have lived in the area a good long while. Expunging the unclean is a good thing, no? . And you are right to avoid the concept of human rights. But why fear? Are not the residents of the dangerous Susya unhuman? . You won some time ago. Now you tranform your win into a monstrousity. And I'm not the only one to see it. G-d has made so many people, to look at one another in their acts. K9,
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Actually ownership is quite relevant. There are use rights with ownership. Voiding those rights by an Accord that Israel has essentially abrogated is not a strong legal argument. (Go back to Bibi I and ask when Oslo was violated on tax transfers.) You are, however, quite right to be worried about ownership claims: you’ve seen how your Court can pivot on that issue, and we wouldn’t want to slow down the expunging of residents who have lived in the area a good long while. Expunging the unclean is a good thing, no?
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And you are right to avoid the concept of human rights. But why fear? Are not the residents of the dangerous Susya unhuman?
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You won some time ago. Now you tranform your win into a monstrousity. And I’m not the only one to see it. G-d has made so many people, to look at one another in their acts.

]]> By: Kolumn9 http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65823 Kolumn9 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:22:42 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65823 Greg, Ownership here is not actually relevant. The absence of permission from the authorities for construction is sufficient and the authorities here as per the Oslo Accords is the Israeli Civil Administration (aka the IDF). . It is about time that Israel deals with all the illegal construction that goes on in the Arab sector. Such construction is prejudicing the outcome of future negotiations and is illegal as per the same agreements that people on certain boards use against Israel. Greg, Ownership here is not actually relevant. The absence of permission from the authorities for construction is sufficient and the authorities here as per the Oslo Accords is the Israeli Civil Administration (aka the IDF).
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It is about time that Israel deals with all the illegal construction that goes on in the Arab sector. Such construction is prejudicing the outcome of future negotiations and is illegal as per the same agreements that people on certain boards use against Israel.

]]> By: Greg Pollock http://972mag.com/call-to-action-protest-the-demolition-of-entire-palestinian-village/48550/comment-page-1/#comment-65819 Greg Pollock Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:02:49 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=48550#comment-65819 "Never again" is apparently under copyright control by a single "people." . Human right transcend legality. The High Court probably reasoned that since no deed ownership can be provided for the area, it is under State control. In this way the Court honors, in its own head, private ownership, even though such ownership is in many if not most instances nearly State feudal in Israel. . The number of contradictions Israel lives under is difficult to fathom. Someday, a crack will appear, and widen. But not for those of this day. “Never again” is apparently under copyright control by a single “people.”
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Human right transcend legality. The High Court probably reasoned that since no deed ownership can be provided for the area, it is under State control. In this way the Court honors, in its own head, private ownership, even though such ownership is in many if not most instances nearly State feudal in Israel.
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The number of contradictions Israel lives under is difficult to fathom. Someday, a crack will appear, and widen. But not for those of this day.

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