Is it only me that find this quote particularity sick? This is from the Jerusalem Post’s editorial, no less (my bold):
Perhaps Brievik’s inexcusable act of vicious terror should serve not only as a warning that there may be more elements on the extreme Right willing to use violence to further their goals, but also as an opportunity to seriously reevaluate policies for immigrant integration in Norway and elsewhere.
If you can stand it, read the rest here.
July 25, 2011
9:00 am
I found it particularly Glick. Was it?
July 25, 2011
9:23 am
I asked a JPost journalist today who was responsible for writing the editorial. They said, “I guess it was Hitler. Except he’s dead.”
July 25, 2011
9:43 am
OK, I’ll bite. What’s wrong with re-evaluating an immigration policy that grants asylum to more people than can possibly be conveniently cared for? Everyone has to be someplace, and this situation can only exacerbate housing shortages, another major issue. Note thatBlack Sudanese Muslims are ignoring countries under the “religion of Peace” like Egypt and heading for “racist, fascist” Israel. We must be doing something right.
July 25, 2011
9:47 am
@ARCANEEONE: Discussing policy isn’t wrong; it’s the context that’s horribly wrong. Would you suggest “evaluating the Jewish problem” following kristallnacht?
July 25, 2011
10:36 am
This tripe was probably written by Caroline Glick (it sounds like something she would write with a straight face). The fact that Mr. Brievik is an ardent zionist doesn’t seem to faze her and her ilk one bit. If anything, I would expect JPost to not mention this story at all to avoid bringing attention to any potential association with a crazed, mad-dog serial killer. But I guess since rightists don’t pay too much attention to detail anyway, it doesn’t really matter.
July 25, 2011
11:49 am
I find it ridiculous for an Israeli editorial board to discuss the immigration policies of Norway or Europe, especially when it has nothing to do with Israel and its policies.
July 25, 2011
12:09 pm
A mind-bogglingly STUPID editorial. Actually, stupid doesn’t cover it. Disgusting, disturbing, dangerous — and that’s just the d’s. I sincerely hope it helps to bury the JP — it is long overdue. And if it isn’t Glick, it sure should be. Fits her to a “t”.
July 25, 2011
12:25 pm
How is this different from leftists arguing that suicide bombings are a good reason to re-evaluate the occupation? (“what have we been doing to them to cause us to treat us like this??!!) Palestinian suicide bombers and Brievik both murdered people to bring attention to a political issue. His horrible crime, just like suicide bombings, doesn’t make the underlying issue more or less important than it was before. I don’t see a meaningful difference between using the tragedy to highlight Europe’s social ills and using it silence those who wish to discuss those social ills. Its exploitation either way.
July 25, 2011
12:39 pm
@RichardNYC:
Typical rightist tactic – turn the issue around and fire it back at the leftists when you have no real argument to support. The JPost editorial is pure garbage written by a disturbed mind (my guess is Caroline Glick, but they do have a couple more loony tunes at the head office capable of writing this kind of shit). I am 100% certain that many in the JPost, as well as the Israeli government proper, were EXTREMELY disappointed when it was revealed that the terrorist was not a Muslim but a Christian rightist (with pro-Israel views, no less). You could almost hear the collective sigh of disappointment emanating from West Jerusalem. The least you rightists can do is shut up about this story and not fan any more flames. That would be the SENSIBLE thing to do.
July 25, 2011
1:18 pm
RNYC,
In this case there is no underlying problem other than the problem of populist politicians like Wilders creating one to collect votes. Occupation is a real evil with lots of innocent victems.
July 25, 2011
2:01 pm
@Danny
“Typical rightist tactic – turn the issue around and fire it back at the leftists when you have no real argument to support”(Danny)
Does that mean that when the leftists use the same argument, they don’t have a case to support it either?
July 25, 2011
2:10 pm
@DIRECTORB
” Occupation is a real evil with lots of innocent victems”(DIRECTORB)
I wonder why the “occupation” continues? Ehud Barak tried to end it in 2000/2001 but there were no takers on the other side. Instead he got an Intifada and Durban.
Ehud Olmert tried to end it in 2008 with his offer but there were still no takers. Oh and I wonder which side refuses to even negotiate now because their pre-condition is not being met?
July 26, 2011
1:27 am
Maybe we can learn some lessons from these reactions from Norwegian people:
”We will cover the city in flowers, and colour it with kindness and love!”, – Maria Solheim, Norwegian singer-songwriter
“With flowers we’ll give the world the message: Fear shall never break us!”, – Jens Stoltenberg, Prime Minister of Norway
“Even in their deepest sorrow the norwegians don’t get hysterical. They resist the hate. It is amazing to see how politicians and the whole country reacts. They are sad to the deepest thread of their souls. They cry in dignity. But nobody swears to take revenge. Instead they want even more humanity and democracy. That is one of the most remarkable strengths of that little country.” from a German newspaper article
”We will punish the terrorist with more generosity, more tolerance and more democracy.” – Fabian Stang, Mayor of Oslo
”If one man’s hate can do all this, imagine what all our love combined can do!”, – young victim from Utøya
July 26, 2011
3:14 am
One cannot put Palestinian suicide bombers and Brievik in the same boat. The Palestianians, living under occupation that severly restricts free movement and a normal livelihood are in such a hopless situation, that to some see no other way but to opt for someting so terrible. Brievik, on the other hand, Lives in a country in which had freedom to live as he wished. Did any migrant or Muslim do him any harm? did someone arrest his father in the middle of the night, push his mother and sisters around while holding a gun to his head. Did a sniper shoot his best friend on the way from school? Somebody demolish his uncles home as punishment? Did he have to desperately beg at a checkpoint to get his son to hospital only to be turned away by some 18 year old conscript for no reason. It is wrong to kill innocents, and I’m not justifying the Palestianans deeds. But the occupation is a unjustice and its real. Did something like this happen to Brievik? I guess certainly not. Brievik acted on
his paranoia, he killed because he perceived a treat that is not actually present, only in his sick mind.
July 26, 2011
7:22 am
“an opportunity to seriously reevaluate policies for immigrant INTEGRATION in Norway and elsewhere”
So you are against Norway helping its immigrants integrate in society? What would you have the Norwegian government do? Park them in “development towns”?
July 26, 2011
7:37 am
@SYLVIA see my 9:47 comment.
July 26, 2011
3:13 pm
The attacker was an insane person. PERIOD.
July 26, 2011
3:59 pm
@ Right Wing Zionist, you say about the occupation that Ehud Barak tried to end it in 2000/2001 and Ehud Olmert in 2008 tried to end it but there were no takers on the other side. What exactly did Israel offer the Palestianians? Neither of the offers gave the Palestianians anything more than the little that they already had. In fact they would have to give up more and end up living in Bantustans totally dependent upon Israel.
July 27, 2011
1:24 am
the Knesset is promoting Glenn Beck
Murdoch said he was ‘good’ for Israel
July 27, 2011
9:39 am
The Norwegian PM (or foreign minister) noted that extremism is an entirely valid point of view and that the Israel’s bring terrorism down upon themselves and the Palestinians aren’t to blame for it nor to held accountable. I am fine with that and would like to see more of it.
July 27, 2011
4:48 pm
Your outrage of the jpost editorial makes me sick (the outrage, not ediotrial)
it serves to expose twisted and hypocritic thoughts of those who constantly cirtisize israel (most of europeans)
When an arab terrorists bombs himself inside a bus, or a youth discotek, then the european reports this, then says it was “due to occupation, and israel should do this and that”
So a terror attack in israel is justified according to europe,
but the jpost didnt justify the norway attack – they simply pointed out that some new evaluation needs to be made for immigration,
this is a far-cry from the pre-judgment that every european does towards israel,
excuse me, but your twisted and anti-israel way of thinking is so wraped that you cannot see past it.
-Ros
Israel.
July 27, 2011
8:39 pm
@Hans
Care to name for us the main features of the Olmert offer as outlined in, say, the Palestine Papers? More precisely, in which way was it a) going to turn the Palestinian State into a bunch of Bantustans totally dependent on Israel and b) how the Palestinians wouldn’t gain much more than what they have?
Now, on topic: This editorial is ill-timed, regardless of whether the issue it’s raising is legitimate or not. RichardNYC seems to have a good point, this is not limited to rightists. But this time, it was a right-wing newspaper the one who did a politically incorrect thing.
July 27, 2011
9:19 pm
Is it not a violation of the 614th commandment to frame conflict as inherently ethnic? Does not that commandment forbid race war and the general reifying of racial categories?
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I hope I have not violated the commentary rules at this site.
August 2, 2011
6:32 am
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