5 comments for ”Bibi’s hand is “outstretched,” alright“

    
  1. Its likely presented more as a diplomatic threat.

    “Look what will happen to you if you DON’T deal with us on our terms”.

    The important question is whether there will be any consequences to Netanyahu’s policies and actions.

    Will this excess suggest to one European power to vote in favor of the Palestinian petition, that would otherwise vote no?

    Will this excess cause one of Israel’s immediate neighbors that are currently in a state of stressed treaty (Egypt and Jordan) to renounce the treaty?

    Will this excess cause one US Congressperson to shift from ignorantly accepting Israeli positions, to wondering and then critiquing and then opposing?

    Will this excess cause one knesset member to shift their perspective?

    Will this excess cause ten thousand Israeli voters to shift their electoral preferences, and urge a vote of no confidence in the likud/israel beitanhu administration?

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  3. Abbas hasn’t exactly given anyone in Israel a reason to restrain Bibi or the settlers. I hope Abbas had a good September.

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  5. Kubrikon could not be more wrong. Abbas has given every reason for Israel to restrain the settlers. Larry, you should be writing for the New York or LA Times or similar publication. With your native American English and your American roots and your ability to give the real inside dope on what is really going on in the Holy Land, a column by you in such a paper would give most Americans what they have never ever been exposed to: the straight dope about “the Situation.” What a difference that would make! It would be the cleverest move for one of these papers to hire you as their Tel Aviv/Jerusalem Correspondent.

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  7. @LARRY
    This kind of argument appears a lot in Haaretz – the major problem with it is the assumption that Bibi’s intransigence should get Abbas or other Palestinians off the hook. Just because Bibi shows bad faith doesn’t mean we can trust the PA. Are we supposed to forget about Palestinians’ delusional expects about right of return? Its possible for both parties to be insincere-enough at the same time for either’s lack of credibility to torpedo any major progress, even if the other side was operating in good faith.

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  9. @LARRY
    I don’t understand why we keep trying the “concessions first” approach here when its obvious that making demands of Israeli leaders backfires completely, a la Obama’s settlement freeze fiasco. If you measure good faith in terms of up-front Israeli concessions, you’re making it impossible for Israel to demonstrate good faith – stirring the national religious beehive and then asking for honey. I’m starting to think people who insist on this aren’t taking the evidence seriously. Would the Shalit deal have happened if Hamas demanded public Israeli commitments to release terrorists in advance? That’s just not how deals work. Once the prize is on the table, as a result of SECRET negotiations, the national religious nutcases have a WEAKER argument. When there’s nothing to gain, and only settlements to lose, they are politically STRONGER. And anyway, if I were a Palestinian in the West Bank, I would be more worried if Bibi was planning a unilateral withdrawal and annexing the major bloc and Jerusalem, because that is a conceivably permanent set of borders.



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