Comments on: Authorities round up South Sudanese ahead of mass deportation

By: Joel

Joel — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:54:39 +0000

Aaron said:

“They seem to be very likeable people, more likeable and personable than Israelis.

I want the Africans out of Israel.”

Aaron is right on both counts.

By: Charles

Charles — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:19:44 +0000

Hey Aaron the fachist troll,
Thank you for answering me.
What you say proves that the Israeli society has not been enough in contact with “foreigners”, people who are fondamentally different from us. It does not understand them, then it fears them and finally reject them.
I grew up in West Africa, and for me walking in south TA reminds me my golden years playing the best football with the nicest people possible.
This situation in my eyes also reflects one of the core problem of jewish people: We are so much absorbed with ourselves and our practice of religion that we cut ourselves from the others. It identified that a long time ago when I was a kid and decided to meet everyone possible.
This flow of refugees is a unique occasion to express our level of civilization, so let’s wake up and do it. It is a chance to overcome the fear and get enrich ourself from their culture.
Just remember that we were and still treated as rats (chased and killed), look at them, we were them. Let’s give them a chance.

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:20:28 +0000

Funny Palestinian. If this ‘Palestine’ of yours wasn’t a state, then what was it that was turned into a Jewish republic? There isn’t any moral issues with turning an unclaimed geographic area into a state, especially where one has a long-standing claim to it. This is especially the case where the area is sparsely populated by people with no national consciousness whatsoever.

By: Palestinian

Palestinian — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:06:17 +0000

“overturn the state of Israel and turn it into a semi-African republic” really ? but when Zionists turned Palestine (whether it was recognized as an indepedent state or not) into a Jewish republic by force/terrorism …that was okay ? I call that hypocrisy

By: Kolumn9

Kolumn9 — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:36:51 +0000

Comrade Sh, you might notice if you look around that Israel is most certainly a nation state, albeit with national minorities. This is pretty damn normal for a nation state. In fact it is pretty clear from your writing that not only is it obvious to you that Israel is a nation state, but that this is precisely what you don’t like about it. Novelty eh? There are quiet a few nation states in the world and the Western model, whatever it is, is looking more and more like a historical flop soon to go the same way as Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. You know, all those wonderful states the left used to pretend could be used as models for Israel because in Eastern Europe they too had gone past the novelty of the nation state.
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Also, I don’t get the attachment of some in Israel to the aging and declining West. Whatever conceptual and political models that place has have proved themselves to be impractical in the real world. This is especially the case for Western ideas of absorbing migrants and refugees, as pretty much every government in Western Europe has admitted in recent years. Nation states or not, they openly admit their attempts to create whatever it is that is supposed to replace the nation state have failed spectacularly.
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By: Aaron the Fascist Troll

Aaron the Fascist Troll — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:00:35 +0000

Salutations, Charles. I like the Africans, just from walking through African neighborhoods every day. I don’t talk to them, but it’s very obvious that they’re much politer and more well-mannered than Israelis. They seem to be very likeable people, more likeable and personable than Israelis.

I want the Africans out of Israel.

By: charles

charles — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:31:14 +0000

Salutations,
The article is well written and documented but presents these refugees as pure victims. On an other side I have read other articles on the same subjects that present them as rapers and robberers.
One has to know that these people presented as refugees are actually survivors, they crossed the desert in quest of a safe haven so they can finally have a life. They went through abuse, life threatning violence, rape, extorsion and so on for years and they end on our borders as thick as tooth picks and we cannot see a good side to these people ?
If one smiles to them in the street, one will get ten times ones’ smile back.
The heart of Africans is enormous. They don’t need pity, they need education and work.
If the government could offer the ones who manage to cross our borders a contract of 3 years with the possibility to work, learn and save, they may leave the country with hope and tools to build their future in their own country.

By: sh

sh — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:08:19 +0000

“If the 100,000 mostly male migrants in Israel pursue the same course Israel will be changed permanently from being a nation state.”
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Jawohl Herr Kolumnneun.
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You have noticed, I suppose, that Israel never was a nation state if you include the large percentage of non-Jews that were already here when the state was declared, the fact that ethnically the Jews themselves are not homogeneous and that Russians and Ethiopia brought here under the law of return are not Jewish either;
and that nation states were a novelty most of which wore themselves out quickly and bloodily. There are not many nation states left in the west we’re always told we’re part of.
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Maybe nation states aren’t all they’re cracked up to be? Whatever, today ours seems to be a figment of our own imagination.

By: Mya Guarnieri

Mya Guarnieri — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:45:12 +0000

Caden: I don’t know anything about Rehmat’s personal views and I don’t see anything in his comment that substantiates your claim. Again, I’ve banned you from my channel. Please refrain from commenting. Your comments will just be deleted.
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Max: This isn’t an op-ed, it’s news. So you’re not be able to tell “my issue” is. Best, Mya

By: Aaron the Fascist Troll

Aaron the Fascist Troll — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:28:53 +0000

Correction, I guess I meant “verified,” not “fact-checked,” in the above.