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		<title>By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Picker of Afula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;  By the way, Picker, did you approve of the Nazis, their lebensraum, only disapprove of their failure? 

Hitler was elected - and without any of the cheating that is normal in Chicago elections. And they had every right to do what they wanted, in their own country. That&#039;s not a statement that makes the &quot;Jewish Community Professionals&quot; happy, but maybe Abe Foxman is just too fond of his $700K  annual salary?



&gt;&gt; Do you believe the weakened should drown as biological inevitability? 

If the disinfectant is stronger than the Cholera bacterii, than the cholera bacterii WILL disappear, no matter what you believe or what I believe. Did you piss and moan about the Neanderthals getting displaced out of existence.... or did you just grab their hunting grounds? 


&gt;&gt; Are you so afraid of others that you must blot them out before they blot you?

Absolutely Yes. Worked for the Russians in the aftermath of Operation Barberosa; it will work for us Hebrews now.


&gt;&gt; Every place was once someone’s else’s. Civilization progresses when it refuses that warrant

I&#039;ll mention that to the Saudi Hashemites when we throw them out of Palestine.  Most of his Beduin troops will change flags faster than Assad&#039;s generals did..... ok, I answered all your questions fully and honestly. So do tell us, Greg:   which ruined indigenous village is your house sitting on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;  By the way, Picker, did you approve of the Nazis, their lebensraum, only disapprove of their failure? </p>
<p>Hitler was elected &#8211; and without any of the cheating that is normal in Chicago elections. And they had every right to do what they wanted, in their own country. That&#8217;s not a statement that makes the &#8220;Jewish Community Professionals&#8221; happy, but maybe Abe Foxman is just too fond of his $700K  annual salary?</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Do you believe the weakened should drown as biological inevitability? </p>
<p>If the disinfectant is stronger than the Cholera bacterii, than the cholera bacterii WILL disappear, no matter what you believe or what I believe. Did you piss and moan about the Neanderthals getting displaced out of existence&#8230;. or did you just grab their hunting grounds? </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Are you so afraid of others that you must blot them out before they blot you?</p>
<p>Absolutely Yes. Worked for the Russians in the aftermath of Operation Barberosa; it will work for us Hebrews now.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Every place was once someone’s else’s. Civilization progresses when it refuses that warrant</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll mention that to the Saudi Hashemites when we throw them out of Palestine.  Most of his Beduin troops will change flags faster than Assad&#8217;s generals did&#8230;.. ok, I answered all your questions fully and honestly. So do tell us, Greg:   which ruined indigenous village is your house sitting on?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Picker, did you approve of the Nazis, their lebensraum, only disapprove of their failure?  Do you believe the weakened should drown as biological inevitability?  Are you so afraid of others that you must blot them out before they blot you?

Every place was once someone&#039;s else&#039;s. Civilization progresses when it refuses that warrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Picker, did you approve of the Nazis, their lebensraum, only disapprove of their failure?  Do you believe the weakened should drown as biological inevitability?  Are you so afraid of others that you must blot them out before they blot you?</p>
<p>Every place was once someone&#8217;s else&#8217;s. Civilization progresses when it refuses that warrant.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Picker of Afula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;  Nor were German or Russian Jews stateless


and being ethnic Hebrews, we arranged the appropriate aliyah-bet, within the limitations placed on us by the colonial British rulers.


By the way, Greg,can we enquire as to which group of indigenous persons originally lived on the place you now call home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;  Nor were German or Russian Jews stateless</p>
<p>and being ethnic Hebrews, we arranged the appropriate aliyah-bet, within the limitations placed on us by the colonial British rulers.</p>
<p>By the way, Greg,can we enquire as to which group of indigenous persons originally lived on the place you now call home?</p>
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		<title>By: vittorio</title>
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		<dc:creator>vittorio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all must forget that those people are illegal in the country. They all have ID in Eritrea and when they flee they have it with them. Problem? You must have heard about people from the Tigrai region in Ethiopia using the language similarity(practically the same) with Eritrea to gain access to the preference the western world is giving to asylum seekers coming from Eritrea due to political reasons and utter despise of the Eritrean government stance on self reliance. And again: most if not all those people that ask for political asylum are in reality &quot;economical asylum seekers&quot; like many others coming form many parts of the world. Here in Australia we send back asylum seekers coming from Indonesia for the same reason, although they would love to have the Australian government believe they are escaping a repressive government. Moreover: How a government like Israel can assess a refugee just on the basis of what he is saying? for what we all known he could be a terrorist at home. But going back to the main issue: documents! If you are a refugee for political reasons, you go to the Embassy of Eritrea and can obtain documents if you pay. Let me know which other country would give you still assistance when you are practically leaving the same country for political reasons. I really would love to see an Israeli leaving it&#039;s own country for political reasons whichever they might be, go to an Arab country and ask for political asylum with no documents. Then go to the Israeli embassy and ask for such documents. The minimum is going to happen to that person is ending up being arrested and most probably prosecuted for treason against the Jewish Sate. People get real please!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all must forget that those people are illegal in the country. They all have ID in Eritrea and when they flee they have it with them. Problem? You must have heard about people from the Tigrai region in Ethiopia using the language similarity(practically the same) with Eritrea to gain access to the preference the western world is giving to asylum seekers coming from Eritrea due to political reasons and utter despise of the Eritrean government stance on self reliance. And again: most if not all those people that ask for political asylum are in reality &#8220;economical asylum seekers&#8221; like many others coming form many parts of the world. Here in Australia we send back asylum seekers coming from Indonesia for the same reason, although they would love to have the Australian government believe they are escaping a repressive government. Moreover: How a government like Israel can assess a refugee just on the basis of what he is saying? for what we all known he could be a terrorist at home. But going back to the main issue: documents! If you are a refugee for political reasons, you go to the Embassy of Eritrea and can obtain documents if you pay. Let me know which other country would give you still assistance when you are practically leaving the same country for political reasons. I really would love to see an Israeli leaving it&#8217;s own country for political reasons whichever they might be, go to an Arab country and ask for political asylum with no documents. Then go to the Israeli embassy and ask for such documents. The minimum is going to happen to that person is ending up being arrested and most probably prosecuted for treason against the Jewish Sate. People get real please!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people have had personnaly problems with Eritrea! Thats what they give back now! The majority of Eritreans are happy to pay! And again the USA is taxing its Diaspora community as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people have had personnaly problems with Eritrea! Thats what they give back now! The majority of Eritreans are happy to pay! And again the USA is taxing its Diaspora community as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Mulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Eritreans have been paying our dues to support our people back home for decades. It is this support that keeps Eritrea afloat and make it stand on its two feet without begging or disintegrating like Somalia. It is our right to pay who ever we want to pay. Paying Tax to your country is a MUST where ever you live. If we can&#039;t pay at the EMbassy, that is fine we will pay it otherwise. No one can deter us from helping our people back home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Eritreans have been paying our dues to support our people back home for decades. It is this support that keeps Eritrea afloat and make it stand on its two feet without begging or disintegrating like Somalia. It is our right to pay who ever we want to pay. Paying Tax to your country is a MUST where ever you live. If we can&#8217;t pay at the EMbassy, that is fine we will pay it otherwise. No one can deter us from helping our people back home.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor were German or Russian Jews stateless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor were German or Russian Jews stateless.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegrass Picker of Afula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluegrass Picker of Afula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they aren&#039;t stateless persons; hence only their own country&#039;s bureaucracy can issue them authenticated credentials. And Eritrea is a sovereign country with self-determination which has jurisdicition over its citizens. They fought a very bloody war to attain that.

The alternative is to request our allies the Ethiopians to re-colonize Eritrea. Maybe we could lease the entire coastline. After all, even the Chinese never attacked the  ==legality== of British control of HongKong during the contract period.

Wow, Greg, thanks for planting this idea in my head!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they aren&#8217;t stateless persons; hence only their own country&#8217;s bureaucracy can issue them authenticated credentials. And Eritrea is a sovereign country with self-determination which has jurisdicition over its citizens. They fought a very bloody war to attain that.</p>
<p>The alternative is to request our allies the Ethiopians to re-colonize Eritrea. Maybe we could lease the entire coastline. After all, even the Chinese never attacked the  ==legality== of British control of HongKong during the contract period.</p>
<p>Wow, Greg, thanks for planting this idea in my head!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eritrean asylum seekers without documentation are often instructed by Israeli immigration officers to go to the Eritrean Embassy in Tel Aviv to acquire ID cards (for which they must pay up to $800) or passports (which cost up to $3,200). In addition to these exorbitant fees, the asylum seekers are required  to pay a 2 percent income tax to the authorities. If they cannot pay the tax, their families in Eritrea are coerced into paying a heavy fine.&quot;

It is absurd to ask a plea for political asylum to go to the alleged oppressor for the tools to apply for asylum.  To do so makes Israel not a haven but complicit with abuse.  This is a direct violation of the refugee treaties; it is time for Israel to either abrogate or adhere to them.  Its present behavior is just shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eritrean asylum seekers without documentation are often instructed by Israeli immigration officers to go to the Eritrean Embassy in Tel Aviv to acquire ID cards (for which they must pay up to $800) or passports (which cost up to $3,200). In addition to these exorbitant fees, the asylum seekers are required  to pay a 2 percent income tax to the authorities. If they cannot pay the tax, their families in Eritrea are coerced into paying a heavy fine.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is absurd to ask a plea for political asylum to go to the alleged oppressor for the tools to apply for asylum.  To do so makes Israel not a haven but complicit with abuse.  This is a direct violation of the refugee treaties; it is time for Israel to either abrogate or adhere to them.  Its present behavior is just shameful.</p>
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