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Arrested, beaten and threatened with rape. A personal testimony

“One of the girls is sitting on the bench beside me; an officer places his fist on her head and tells her ‘If you dare speak even a single word, you shall be punished.’ We are screaming and struggling as they take her away, but they shove us back to our seats, yelling ‘Sit down you stinking Arabs,’ and ‘Don’t you move, bitch.’ We can hear the tasers at work in the other room.”

By Leehee Rothschild

(Photo: Mati Milstein)

Israeli protesters arrested after a demonstration in solidarity with Palestinian hunger strikers in Ramle on May 3 testified to suffering extreme police violence and abuse while in detention. Their complaints have been filed by Adalah with the Justice Ministry’s department for police investigation. Here is one protesters’ personal testimony.

It is Thursday and we’ve come to protest in front of the Israeli Prison Service hospital in Ramle, in which some of the hunger striking Palestinian prisoners are held. They are held there despite the fact that it’s past time that they were moved to a civil hospital. They are held there despite the fact that the prison hospital can’t provide them with the necessary medical services, which they required. They are held there confined to their beds, highly guarded, as though a person who’s been on hunger strike for over 60 days can try to escape. We come to support them and the others that are fasting against unjust imprisonment in atrocious conditions.

There are speeches by family members, there are chants and slogans, and Palestinian flags waving in the air. At some point, though, the cops started pushing us back. We are walking backwards, but they keep on pushing us. I trip and fall on the ground. They keep on pushing, and people start falling on top of me. They keep on pushing, and more people fall, and the cops are stepping over me. I scream and scream, but they keep on pushing. At some point, one of them grabs my hand and starts pulling me out from underneath the pile of people. Most of my body is still caught in the tangle of bodies, and my legs are bending in very unnatural angles.

It is very painful, and I’m screaming. Another cop grabs my other hand. Together they manage to pull me out. They make me stand, although my legs feel numb, and drag me to the police van. We are driven to the police station, three of us sitting in the back, four guys squeezed together in a seat made for three, with a cop standing, leaning over them, squeezing them further.

We are sitting at the station leg shackled to one another, waiting to be interrogated, although we were never informed that we are either arrested or detained. There are only two of us girls. The boys are in the other room. We are still kindling hopes of quick release, when we start hearing people yelling and shouting outside, and soon enough they start bringing them in. Several cops carry each one of them, and they are thrown on the floor, kicked and beaten. We are yelling “What are you doing?” and “Stop beating them” and try to reach our friends, who are under the policemen’s boots, but that only earns us our own share of punches and kicks, and we are pushed back to our seats.

One of the girls is sitting on the bench beside me; an officer places his fist on her head and tells her “If you dare speak even a single word, you shall be punished.” We are screaming and struggling as they take her away, but they shove us back to our seats, yelling “Sit down you stinking Arabs,”, and “Don’t you move, bitch.” We can hear the tasers at work in the other room, and there’s nothing we can do. When she is brought back, she can’t stop shaking.

From that point on the threat of the tasers is out there and always present, buzzing in the office next door, or posed as a threat, every once in a while. When they lead me out to be interrogated they turn them on again. I try to run back, to be with my friends, but the policeman gets hold of me, and says that I’m going to come with him now, either willingly, or handcuffed, and he doesn’t really mind either way.

Worse than the physical violence are the humiliations and sexual harassment. They laugh at me for being near-sighted. They tell me that I can’t see, they say that I’m blind. They use it as an excuse to push and shove me whenever they are taking me anywhere. I haven’t fell this way since grade school, and they know exactly how they make me feel. They call us whores and bitches, and threaten to fuck us. When I’m left alone with another girl, a cop comes by to let me know that since I’m Jewish and she is Arab she is “gonna kill you someday.” Then he closes the door and says “I should leave you two alone, blow her,” When it’s her turn to be interrogated they grab her and say “Bring the stinking whore.” I demand to speak

with the head officer in the station, and complain about the harassment(s). I don’t get to talk to him, but I do get handcuffed for three hours.
At long last we are leaving the station. When they take us to the van, they take us out of the station one by one. Outside the station at least half a dozen cops are sitting and waiting, giving each one of us a last round of humiliations before we leave. As we sit and wait inside, they thump the van, throwing stones and insults at it as a farewell.

When we got to Neve Tirtza (all-female prison facility) we are taken to the infirmary. We aren’t examined, only interviewed. The paramedic asks me “Are you feeling alright?” to the puzzeled look I give her she replies with “Given current circumstances, of course.” So I say “No, I’m not feeling alright. I was beaten and sexually harassed all night long,” and the policewomen that was with us in the room said “Well, that’s what the police are for.”

In court they demand to extend our arrest for four more days, allegedly to continue our interrogation. The judge decides on house-arrest instead, and prohibits us from talking to one another, or anyone else that was present in the demonstration, for two weeks. We are released, after we got a glimpse of what Palestinian prisoners experience daily. We are released, but so many remain behind bars, with no trial, and with no hope for justice. We are released, and while we can’t partake in it for a short while, la lucha continua.
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Leehee Rothschild has been active in the Palestinian struggle for over a decade. She currently works with Anarchists Against the Wall and Boycott From Within. She writes about activism and political struggle on her blog, Radically Blonde and other publications.

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    1. “We can hear the tasers at work in the other room, and there’s nothing we can do. When she is brought back, she can’t stop shaking. From that point on the threat of the tasers is out there and always present, buzzing in the office next door, or posed as a threat, every once in a while. When they lead me out to be interrogated they turn them on again.”

      This is the thing about tasers: everywhere in the world the official line is that they are only to be used to subdue suspects while making arrests, and everywhere in the world, police actually use them as instruments of torture, sometimes lethally. Another “freedom” we have to thank the USA for.

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    2. Danny

      “and everywhere in the world, police actually use them as instruments of torture”
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      In the U.S. cops have strict guidelines when and how they can use their tasers. While not always adhering to the guidelines, at least the guidelines exist, which may give potential taser victims recourse to get compensation in the event of an unwarranted tasing. In Israel, no such guidelines exist, and tasing is used as just another method of crowd dispersal (in addition to rubber bullets or skunk water), or – as in this case – punishment.

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    3. Piotr Berman

      Leehee, what you wrote is somewhat incoherent in places, I guess the experience was too shocking to write about it with cool mind. I am appalled by the nightmare you have suffered, and I admire your courage.

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    4. Philos

      @ Danny, of course they have regulations in Israel. They have regulations for shooting rubber bullets and when you can use live bullets. Just like in America. And just like in America nobody follows the f*****g regulations…
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      I remember in the army they said you don’t have to follow the regulations. So long as you say you felt threatened nothing would happen to you if you shot and killed someone. In fact nobody expected anybody to adhere to shooting in the sky, shooting at the ground, shooting at the legs and then shooting to kill. Obviously only the real psychopaths wanted to shoot to kill but these regulations were meaningless. Just like they’re totally meaningless to the cops in America, to NATO in Afghanistan and to anybody in uniform wielding a taser. Israel doesn’t deserve more condemnation then any other state that uses violence against it’s citizens and other people.

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    5. Danaa

      While it is true that there are cases of people being tasered unnecessarily in the US and the Occupy demonstrator were treated roughly in places, nothing in the US rises to the level of brutality, inhumanity and plain disgusting behavior that the writer describes here. When police are found to act too aggressively in the US, there’s often a stink and a court case and many times a prison sentence and demotion for the offending cop. When something especially heinous is perpetrated against eg, an i;lllegal immigrant or when outright murder is committed by members of the armed forces in Afhanistan, people refer to it as the “Israelization” of the police or the “Israelization” of the army. meaning that Israelis are known fro being brutes.

      To find equivalents to the way israeli police, security and soldiers behave one must search far into the heartland of the Serbians when they tried to terrorize the Bosnians, or to the worst of Chinese and Russian Gulags. Or to Pinochet and the torture fascist regimes of Colombia and Argentina, back in the day.

      Israel is not a good place for human beings to live in. It has lost its soul to the undertow and like a monstrous golem is devouring its young, turning them into heartless, boastful, thoughtless and aggressive mini-brutes. The police behavior, like the IDF’s and the shin bet’s and that of the most vile security institutions, the mossadists, is the true face the country presents to the world. That along with the well tolerated settlers – the new marauders. and pogromists. What’s not to love?

      Yes, there are people like Leehee – but how many? and what chance do they have against the brutal society of which they are part?

      When someone served at a recent dinner wine from Israel (for which I was not prepared) I gagged and went to throw up. I then left the party saying I couldn’t distinguish that tainted wine from the blood of countless innocents. Something to choke on.

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    6. max

      @DANAA, “people refer to it as the “Israelization” of the police” – so now Max Blumenthal is ‘people’? Did he agree to be positioned so low?
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      Israel has a brutal police; possibly as brutal as the British or the French ones, though probably not as bad as the CRS
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      And next time you refuse Israeli wine (too expensive in my opinion), please remember to throw away your made-in-China iPhone!
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      Pity that the suffering of Leehee and friends is debased with such hate

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    7. Piotr Berman

      US definitely has a tradition of dirty wars that does not need any “Israelization”. However, it got somewhat rusty at the time of second Iraqi war and Israeli consultants had an input in designing interrogation methods.

      But this is a domestic demonstration and aftermath in the police station. I never read about such scenes in Europe or North America, say after 1990. It seems more like Egypt.

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    8. Philos

      @ Danaa, I presume you’re not a poor African-American or a Nicaraguan or an Iraqi? Because if you were one of those then you’d know that what you wrote is utter nonsense. I have a suggestion, read a few Noam Chomsky books (if his name isn’t too Jewish for you) and you will see that, yes Israel is a brute of a state, but no more brutal than any other liberal-democracy and, in terms of absolute volumes of killing, nowhere near in the same ballpark as the beacon of freedom across the Atlantic. Genocide in Vietnam and Cambodia and trail of misery throughout Central America in the 80s.
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      The state system is rotten and evil. To blame the State of Israel for that rottenness is ignorant in the extreme. The nation-state as an organizational principal of ruling elite violence has at least 200-years on Israel in terms of its vintage…. >:(

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    9. Paul Dobrhiste

      I find it quite disheartening to see people refer to brutalitisation as ‘Israelization’ and to suggest, and I quote, that “Israelis are known for being brutes”. Do you really think that this contributes positively to discourse concerning the occupation? Or does it in reality legitimise the manufactured defense mentality of Zionism, which has become part of the national myth of the Zionist state (in much the same way as manifest destiny was part of the founding myth of the USA, and was used to justify the degradation of native peoples).

      Perhaps it is time that people started to address their own bigotry with regards to Israel. It is not that Israelis fundamentally are bad people, as Philos stated, the state system is at fault, and we are negligent if we do not draw a distinction between a state hell bent on ethnic cleansing, and a peoples who are inherently prejudiced. More and more I believe that a just solution (which for me includes everyone of the agreed rights of Palestinians) necessitates dialogue with Israelis, rather than the demonisation of ordinary Israelis which seems to prevalent amongst many concerned with Palestinian rights.

      In December I met with youth activists in the Northern West Bank, who told me that they no longer spoke of “from the river to the sea”, their struggle, as I took it, was no longer national, rather was a struggle for universal human rights. If only everyone else could catch up.

      As always, I can only offer my uptmost respect to Leehee and all other brave Israelis who are free from the prevailing orthodoxy of the state of Israel.

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    10. ProudZionist777

      So Leehee resisted arrest and get roughed up, got a medical exam for any injuries and than received due process in front of a Judge.

      Solzhenitsyn must be rolling in his grave.

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    11. Piotr Berman

      Proudzionist77: “Nothing there. Carry on, lads.”

      Leehee resisted arrest by cunningly arranging a pile of bodies on top of her. Clever girl.

      Beating, tasering and humiliating the arrested people in the police station — nothing to worry about. Additionally, police wanted to have fun for several more days, so yeah, courts are the moderate part of the system.

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    12. Danaa

      PHILOS:

      Your use of Chomsky is revealing – he is known for his many incisive and enlightened commentaries on issues that result from the abuse of power by those who have it (like a state apparatus, or security establishments) against those who don’t (minorities, subjugated/conquered people, the disenfranchised etc.). On all those counts he is astute, humane and well minded. For which positions he was not allowed to enter Israel recently, since in Israel, the very idea of “human rights” is perceived as a threat. But he does have that prevents him from seeing the true reality of things when it comes to zionism, American style. When 400 congress people vote in unision on a motion written by AIPAC, he will deny the pervasiveness and perniciousness of that deep tissue influence exertion and outright coersion by a lobby that is far more powerful than any other US lobby (no other gets such unanimity, or has, ever). Look there, says Chomsky – it’s the empire, the collusions of the BIGS, it’s the inherent evilness of “The State”. I won’t deny that Chomsky is one of the best of the Liberal Zionists – an excellent representative of unique mode of institutionalized thought in the Anglo west, that pretends to be post-institutional. It’s also a delusion – cognitively dissonant in that it seeks to divert responsibility from the specific to the general, thus diluting – and even undermining – the possibility of any solution that is human rights based.

      FYI, just like everyone else on these comments boards I have Jewish background and am indeed a refugee from Israel. Like all people who escape the grip of cults (which is what the zionist-militarized ethno-religious supremacist garrison state of Israel is – to me), it takes a long time to deal with the repercussions with what it meant to be part of one, and to mourn the loss of time and tidbits of one’s soul left behind on the angry shores. The upside is that ex-cultists discover often a moral clarity not readily available to those who remain behind or their supporters. Especially when this cult is so insidious that it’s not clear to even the best and most clear-sighted of them that they are indeed part of one. Your recommendation of readings from Chomsky make that conundrum amply clear. I do understand though the need to grasp at straws. Been there, done that, moved on. And Chomsky, like J street, like “2 stater mirage” make great straws. The coming “one state” that enlightened citadel of human rights is, most unfortunately, another straw. The reality is what you read on +972 daily and on Ynet and once upon a time at Haaretz. I am just connecting the dots.

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    13. Danaa

      PAUL DPBERHISTE

      I don’t actually disagree with anything you say, and support – wholeheartedly – the work by the few really good people in Israel – and in outside – to bring about a raproachment between people and a state that will be based on human rights. That would, indeed be an excellently jewish thing to do (based on the more exalted interpretations of what “Jewish” means). But I come from a psychological view point which recognizes, that though the people are not the state, by the act of “going along” and “turning a blind eye” they become effectively complicit in the acts of the state. it takes increasing shoring up of the walls around oneself to keep the blinders on, as “the state” continues its steady devolution into something that perhaps most people would have never fathomed they could ever be part of. This is the mentality that grips those who are in the grip of a mafia or a cult (see my comment above). Arendt called this The Banality of Evil, and I am sure I don’t need to bring up the well known examples of the phenomenon. It’s just that it’s really hard to tell when the point of no return has been crossed. For the record, I don’t think it has been crossed yet in Israel, something evidenced by the tale told here and the very existence of a place like +972 where my comments are allowed to even stand. But the crossing point is not as far away as some people think. I just see the outlines more clearly and started the lamentations a bit early.

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    14. proudzionist777

      I’m not justifying anything the police did to Leehee and her comrades, but when I used the term, ‘resisting arrest’, I did so with good reason. Here are three examples:

      “We are yelling “What are you doing?” and “Stop beating them” and try to reach our friends..”

      -and-

      “We are screaming and struggling as they take her away…”

      -and’

      “I try to run back, to be with my friends, but the policeman gets hold of me..”

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    15. Danaa, in fact, not everyone on these comments boards has a Jewish background. I don’t anyway. What you say about Chomsky in response to Philos is certainly true in a negative sense — Chomsky does suppress evidence regarding the role of the so-called ‘zionist lobby,’ as Jeffrey Blankfort has documented in great detail — but it isn’t necessarily true in a positive sense, as implying that there is a superordinate Jewish responsibility for the way that Zionism has developed within the US empire. There may be, or there may not. Elite studies are extremely rare. No one can easily say what proportion of the US power elite is Jewish, nor can they assume that all Jewish members are zionist. My own feeling is that the US Jewish elite make an enormous display of hyper-zionist feeling, but that it does not indicate any real concern for Israel whatever; on the contrary, they seem quite ready to sacrifice Israel in a number of large-scale war scenarios, ultimately for US power. There is nothing ‘Jewish’ about this. I often compare the ‘Israel lobby’ to the older ‘China lobby’, which uses Korea, Japan and Taiwan as ultimately expendable stalking horses. It is not even impossible that some US Zionists are required to act in a way suggesting ‘dual loyalty’ or ‘Israel-First-ism’ because this provides the real US power elite with convenient potential scapegoats if and when everything goes wrong. Jews have been known to offer themselves as potential scapegoats within other imperial contexts. Jewish destiny within empires is extremely complex, and always has been.

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    16. caden

      Rowan, go to Annie, she seems to be the representative of Phil Weiss on 972 and they know exactly what Jews in America are doing at all times. They don’t even need the yellow stars because they spend every waking hour on this project. The international jewish conspiracy.

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    17. Danaa

      Rowan, apologies for sweeping one and all into a tent, you included. For the most part, what I implied about the commentariat here is not untrue, but exceptions must be noted. Coming out as “not-Jewish” may not however be wise since it opens the flood-gates to questions of “why are you so interested then? (unless one is a Palestinian; then it is excused, since they obviously have a dog in the fight).

      I agree that the story of the zionist mind-set take-over of the Jewish establishment in the US is a complex one. It didn’t happen over -night and the agenda, if there’s a single over-arching one (which I happen to think is there), is not always easy to discern. Many Israelis will tell you in fact that the ultra-zionist element in the US has, to some extent, taken over Israel as well, directing it (sort of behind the scenes) in directions itt would not naturally go of its own accord, or at least not so fast. Many maintain that Nethanyahu is, in fact, an American creation, sort of injected into Israeli politics. American conservatism has often made strange allies in far flung places, which is what gives Chomsky a good cover for his theories.

      I believe that to get a clearer view of what really happened to the jewish establishment in the US one must step outside it, so to speak, and also outside the Israeli gestalt-think. Otherwise it is difficult to perceive all the different dimensions. The one thing we can say for sure is that the rise of Jewish Americans to the top tiers of decision makers, opinionators and political operator has a lot to do with the speed with which zionist-think-towers have come to dominate the political scene. It’s K street mingled with C street and with J street. The very civility of the debate between Ben Ami and Krystol should make amply clear what power means in practice. These two should have been at each other’s throat. But instead they are debating, most civilly, all manner of side issues, even as Krystol reveals the full extent Obama has been “turned”, while in the backdrop a creeping ethnic cleansing is taking place, and the elephant in the room, audible and just barely visible, is quietly moaning as the final parameters of the “enterprise” are drawn. That’ last one is what I lament because I see the shadows of what’s to come projected from the near-future into the present. The rest, to me, is chaffe.

      @Caden – you are maligning annie of MW for no good reason, as she has not and does not do what you twistedly imply. If you want to take someone on, try me – or is that too harsh for you?

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    18. Caden, I have my problems with MondoWeiss. In fact, I have problems with the Jewish diasporic world-view generally. I have problems with Moses Mendelssohn. Assimilation seems to me to be a mirage. I suppose I share the Zionist view that once national self-consciousness became the leitmotif of European mass politics, the Jews were condemned to become a nation again, whether they liked it or not. Jews could achieve almost complete assimilation in some given diasporic country, and then the international complications of being Jewish would undermine their assimilation and land them in dangerous territory again. This is not the Weissian view. The Weissians want to be totally USAian, but they want to go on being Jews at the same time. It never works. When Phil Weiss says he belongs to the ‘tribe’, I don’t know what he means, and nor I suspect does he. And I don’t share Philos’s utopian (or dystopian) view that ‘the nation-state’ is on its way out as a ‘system’. So I’m a Zionist.

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    19. Oh, Danaa, they know all about me. I’ve practically told them my life story already. But indeed as you say Bibi has more than a few suspicious eyes directed upon him. This is my favourite description, which I have posted before but it’s so entertainingly cynical I shall post it again:
      “Netanyahu was spotted at MIT in 1973 and the grooming began there when he was in his early twenties. After graduating, he received a high-paying job at Boston Consulting. His boss was Ira Magaziner (CFR). But he quit the job in 1979, returned to Israel, starting selling furniture at the Rim company, then organized an anti-terror convention. Inexplicably, the CFR sent a team of their biggest guns including George Bush Sr, Richard Perle and George Shultz to this unknown 27 year old’s get-together. Once the convention was over, Netanyahu returned to work selling home furniture for three years until 1982, when Washington Ambassador Moshe Arens invited him to be his deputy. He claimed the choice was indirectly made by those who came to his convention and “were impressed with his performance.” That means Bush and Shultz pressed Arens to bring Bibi to Washington. From there, they pushed his career higher. In 1985, Shultz chaired another anti-terror convention in Washington supposedly organized by Netanyahu. By the time Bibi was UN Ambassador, Schultz visited him every time he was in New York, and that was often.”
      I can’t confirm Ira Magaziner was ever in the CFR.

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    20. Proudzionist777

      @Piotr.

      I don’t justify anything the police did to Leehee and her comrades.
      That said, I believe I was correct in saying that Leehee was ‘resisting arrest’ and I list three examples after she had been detained:

      “We are yelling and try to reach our friends, who are under the policemen’s boots”

      -and-

      “We are screaming and struggling as they take her away, but they shove us back to our seats”.

      -and-

      “I try to run back, to be with my friends, but the policeman gets hold of me”

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    21. Israel has no independent invesitgating authority over civil rights. The US had federalism, insuring external, federal courts (it was well known that civil rights cases had to be removed from State courts for any chance of conviction in the South, sometimes the Federal venue was transfered completely out of the State, for belief that no State jury would convict); and, after the death of J. Edgar Hoover, an independent policing body, the FBI. Israel might have had the High Court under now retired Chief Justice Barak, but the present Court seems either in retreat or afraid.
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      The only lever those arrested have is that employed here–the media. Israeli State policy seems use delay to make memory untenable (an ironic policy for this State); media records can counter that to some extent. You will be told to forget; you will be told your sentences don’t quite make sense. Until those subject to this civil barbarism can ask for remedy as constitutional tort in violation of their civil rights the police will not improve.
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      There is one positive indicator: the judge of first instance saw no reason to buy the police’s aggressive attitude–he released them. That will make it harder to justify what the police did (I know it shouldn’t be a close call at all). The gag order is apparently to prevent collusion of testimony, but I trust all involved have already produced affidavits.
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      I continue to truly believe Israel will eventually recognize civil rights fully. But there is a lot of hell to that day.
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      That Proudzionist, above, actually thinks trying to defend one’s friends/associates from physical abuse is identical to resisting arrest is just a little taste of that hell.

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    22. Philos

      @ Danaa, given the patronizing and pretentious style of writing you’re as Israeli as they come :)
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      It’s time to grow up child. You are as wrapped in the anti-Israel mentality as someone who is totally enamored with the State of Israel and Zionism. You are the ying to the Zionist yang, and your pretensions to having “abandoned” the tribe just make you quite annoying I am afraid to say. In classic hasbara troll techniques you totally dodged any of the counter-points I made to your argument, which was that this can only happen in Israel because Israeli authorities do not have regulations with regards to the use of force.
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      I pointed out that they do, just like the Americans or any other democracy, and that the regulations as such do not prevent the widespread abuse of power by the authorities throughout the West. Here’s another example, the massacre of African-Americans by the police after Katrina. I can keep going on and on but it probably assuage your personal and deep seated resentments against Israel per se. Point out to me where there is one state that rules on the principal of human rights… One state in the world where the police don’t beat or where homelessness is non-existent? There isn’t one.
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      Your visceral hatred of everything Israel is as pointless and ridiculous as those fanatics in the settlements who obsess all day and everyday about the evil machinations of Alamek.
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      @ Rowan, sadly I don’t think the state-system is on the way out. On the contrary it is only getting stronger and the killing will go on sadly :(

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    23. caden

      I would Danaa but the power of your intellect is so awsome it’s difficult. But you do seem to have your finger on the pulse of the international jewish conspiracy also.

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    24. AS

      @RB”I have problems with the Jewish diasporic world-view generally.” No shit!

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    25. AS

      “When someone served at a recent dinner wine from Israel (for which I was not prepared) I gagged and went to throw up. I then left the party saying I couldn’t distinguish that tainted wine from the blood of countless innocents.”

      Danaa– Beautiful use of blood libel imagery. Are you sure weren’t choking on your own bile?

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    26. Danaa

      PHILOS: ” given the patronizing and pretentious style of writing you’re as Israeli as they come”.

      Thanks for accepting my credentials. But you forgot to add “ponderous” to the list. That’s another excellent Israeli trait that’s – oh so difficult – to shed.

      I did not take up your “counter-point” because it was beside the point. It wasn’t I who said that israeli police have no regulations. I am quite certain they do and that the rules read quite civilized. Neither it is about violating the rules on the book – which police do indeed everywhere (perhaps except Scandinavia and Switzerland?). The point I was trying to get across – apparently to no avail – is that the climate in Israel is such that to follow the rules may pay no dividends. It is the climate of spite and condescention against other human beings that is responsible for the violations against dignity and person of people who did nothing more than protest. It is that mafia-like mind set that prevents the police who committed violations from being called on it. Yes, police do violate the rules in the US. But they do not do so with impunity. The police who abused their power in New Orleans were in court defending their actions, and several lost their case and are serving jail time. No one admired them or justified their actions other than a few die-hard racists. But in Israel, the police or the thug who hit the Danish activist with his rifle continue to walk trouble free and are even the recipients of accolades.

      All that being said, there’s cause for worry in the US because of the trend towards militarization of the police. And there were cases where israeli-style tactics were used against lawful demonstrators and/or people who happen to be muslims and were caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s what I called “Israelization”, which is another word for descent into mafiosi and ethnic persecution tactics – might makes right – and human rights be damned. But at least so far, when cases get publicity in the US, there’s still across-the-board condemnation and sometimes legal and/or civil action. That notwithstanding the racists and the assortment of shrill nouveau republicans (including the ever-present right wing die-hards on TV like that idiot Krauthammer) who pretend to know something about the constitution. If and when the condemnation stops, I’ll start worrying. I know israel and friends has every intention of making that worry come true.

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