Comments on: Ahead of Nakba Day, Palestinians inspired by Arab Spring http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/ Independent commentary and news from Israel & Palestine Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:07:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Sylvia http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10496 Sylvia Fri, 13 May 2011 15:16:38 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10496 Abban Aziz "Freedom from what?" Now one thing is to strongly disagree with methods which just worsen the conflict and are intended to destroy Israel, another is to live in denial. Do we really really need to be in Bil'in and Abu Saleh?! Why? Abban Aziz
“Freedom from what?”
Now one thing is to strongly disagree with methods which just worsen the conflict and are intended to destroy Israel, another is to live in denial. Do we really really need to be in Bil’in and Abu Saleh?! Why?

]]> By: Sylvia http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10493 Sylvia Fri, 13 May 2011 12:26:23 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10493 Sinjim I know this will come to you as a shock, but not all Arabs or all Muslims are Arabic grammarians. SH No one said anything about a March 15 movement. I said and meant March 6, the day of the launching of the Intifada al-Islamiyya al-Falastiniyya a-thalita and other matters. Sinjim
I know this will come to you as a shock, but not all Arabs or all Muslims are Arabic grammarians.

SH
No one said anything about a March 15 movement. I said and meant March 6, the day of the launching of the Intifada al-Islamiyya al-Falastiniyya a-thalita and other matters.

]]> By: Abban Aziz http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10491 Abban Aziz Fri, 13 May 2011 11:13:05 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10491 "If anything it is the U.N that has failed the Palestinian people. WE DONT WANT MONEY, WE WANT FREEDOM. Our fight is not about aid but about dignity." Freedom from what? The UN has certainly failed the Palestinian people - they continue to classify decedents of a war fought 60 years ago as "refugees" - while the Palestinian Authority is not expected to spend a single dollar on Palestinian civil services. Most of the money they get goes to their 120,000+ strong squad of over-paid thugs. They feed the foreigners with B.S about "freedom" and "independence but it is all a scam to get more aid. The Palestinian leadership is richer than the Queen of England. The Palestinians receive more aid than Somalia, Sudan, and Congo COMBINED. 40% of Palestinian refugees are citizens of Jordan - so how can they still be refugees? Uh? "The P.A should actively support nonviolence actions. They also worried that some of these protests could turn violent or Israeli response could cause an escalation which could hurt the November prospect." The PA continues to undermine agreements Israel signed in good faith. If the Palestinians want freedom then they should start demanding normalized relations with Israel, rather than pandering to their benefactors in Europe, Arab states, and obviously America that love to see them displaced and fighting Israel. What a great distraction. Imagine if the millions of refugees displaced by Muslim states receive the attention the Palestinians receive. BTW, great job at not responding to the content of my post. Really, way to go with the rhetoric. “If anything it is the U.N that has failed the Palestinian people. WE DONT WANT MONEY, WE WANT FREEDOM. Our fight is not about aid but about dignity.”

Freedom from what? The UN has certainly failed the Palestinian people – they continue to classify decedents of a war fought 60 years ago as “refugees” – while the Palestinian Authority is not expected to spend a single dollar on Palestinian civil services.

Most of the money they get goes to their 120,000+ strong squad of over-paid thugs.

They feed the foreigners with B.S about “freedom” and “independence but it is all a scam to get more aid.

The Palestinian leadership is richer than the Queen of England. The Palestinians receive more aid than Somalia, Sudan, and Congo COMBINED.

40% of Palestinian refugees are citizens of Jordan – so how can they still be refugees?

Uh?

“The P.A should actively support nonviolence actions. They also worried that some of these protests could turn violent or Israeli response could cause an escalation which could hurt the November prospect.”

The PA continues to undermine agreements Israel signed in good faith. If the Palestinians want freedom then they should start demanding normalized relations with Israel, rather than pandering to their benefactors in Europe, Arab states, and obviously America that love to see them displaced and fighting Israel.

What a great distraction. Imagine if the millions of refugees displaced by Muslim states receive the attention the Palestinians receive.

BTW, great job at not responding to the content of my post. Really, way to go with the rhetoric.

]]> By: Aziz http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10490 Aziz Fri, 13 May 2011 10:49:45 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10490 Max, The P.A and Hamas like many other political groups think that grassroots not controlled by them can hurt their efforts. They have little faith in peoples actions and therefore it is not part of their strategy. I think it is a mistake. The P.A should actively support nonviolence actions. They also worried that some of these protests could turn violent or Israeli response could cause an escalation which could hurt the November prospect. Max,
The P.A and Hamas like many other political groups think that grassroots not controlled by them can hurt their efforts. They have little faith in peoples actions and therefore it is not part of their strategy. I think it is a mistake. The P.A should actively support nonviolence actions. They also worried that some of these protests could turn violent or Israeli response could cause an escalation which could hurt the November prospect.

]]> By: Aziz http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10489 Aziz Fri, 13 May 2011 10:46:49 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10489 Abban, I think you making too many assumptions. I don't sit in the U.S to write angry letters while people dying here. I was in Jerusalem in both the first and the second Intifadas and I plan to be here in May and June. My whole family live here. And as someone who lost a brother and few cousins to this conflict, I understand the price very well. I think you got it wrong on the International community and the U.N. If anything it is the U.N that has failed the Palestinian people. WE DONT WANT MONEY, WE WANT FREEDOM. Our fight is not about aid but about dignity. Abban,
I think you making too many assumptions. I don’t sit in the U.S to write angry letters while people dying here. I was in Jerusalem in both the first and the second Intifadas and I plan to be here in May and June. My whole family live here. And as someone who lost a brother and few cousins to this conflict, I understand the price very well. I think you got it wrong on the International community and the U.N. If anything it is the U.N that has failed the Palestinian people. WE DONT WANT MONEY, WE WANT FREEDOM. Our fight is not about aid but about dignity.

]]> By: Abban Aziz http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10482 Abban Aziz Fri, 13 May 2011 09:41:43 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10482 Aziz Abu Sarah divides his time between D.C and Jerusalem. Obviously, in the event of a war, he will be writing angry letters at a peaceful distance in the United States - not the frontlines. These "protests" are designed to distract from the real self-made problems created by the Palestinian government and their supporters. But rather then looking to reform, they turn to protest, rock throwing, violence, blah blah blah. Two intifadas and 10,000 dead Arabs and you think another one is going to somehow win the affect of the UN? You guys are becoming a parasite on the international community. Millions starve in Africa and get jack squat because the Arab League hijacks the UN and uses it as a platform for their Palestinian lightening rod. It's time for the darlings of the left to move on and become independent. Get jobs, get off international welfare. Only then the "occupation" will end. But so will the conflict with Israel, which it seems many activist's lives are dependent on. Aziz Abu Sarah divides his time between D.C and Jerusalem. Obviously, in the event of a war, he will be writing angry letters at a peaceful distance in the United States – not the frontlines.

These “protests” are designed to distract from the real self-made problems created by the Palestinian government and their supporters. But rather then looking to reform, they turn to protest, rock throwing, violence, blah blah blah.

Two intifadas and 10,000 dead Arabs and you think another one is going to somehow win the affect of the UN?

You guys are becoming a parasite on the international community. Millions starve in Africa and get jack squat because the Arab League hijacks the UN and uses it as a platform for their Palestinian lightening rod.

It’s time for the darlings of the left to move on and become independent. Get jobs, get off international welfare.

Only then the “occupation” will end. But so will the conflict with Israel, which it seems many activist’s lives are dependent on.

]]> By: sh http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10464 sh Thu, 12 May 2011 23:23:01 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10464 Funny, I heard that the movement was March 15 (not 6) http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2062308,00.html There was an article about them in Comment is Free on Thursday. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/12/palestinian-struggle-arab-spring Funny, I heard that the movement was March 15 (not 6) http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2062308,00.html

There was an article about them in Comment is Free on Thursday.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/12/palestinian-struggle-arab-spring

]]> By: SINJIM http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10463 SINJIM Thu, 12 May 2011 22:51:15 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10463 @Sylvia: 1) You're a conspiracy nut. Like Orly Taitz nutty. . 2) Whoever wrote that Arabic text wasn't an Arab. The clear errors in basic grammar and spelling makes that more than clear. In fact, the errors seem to reflect a knowledge of Hebrew grammar. Strange... @Sylvia: 1) You’re a conspiracy nut. Like Orly Taitz nutty.
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2) Whoever wrote that Arabic text wasn’t an Arab. The clear errors in basic grammar and spelling makes that more than clear. In fact, the errors seem to reflect a knowledge of Hebrew grammar. Strange…

]]> By: Sylvia http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10453 Sylvia Thu, 12 May 2011 20:41:15 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10453 I have been following this since March 6. It's a Jihad that will start out as a civilian peaceful mass demonstration but will morph into violent one (where the IDF will be at fault of course)when the peaceful demonstrators run for the borders on Sunday and the soldiers will be left no choice but fire. It is an Islamic Intifada conceived and planned by Islamists which will begin organizing in the mosques on Friday with organized long-planned support all over the world on Sunday. The schedules with meeting places and times of meeting were out already two months ago. The way it is being described الزحف لتحرير فلسطينا-لانتفاظه الاسلاميه الكبرى is inconsistent with the claims of peaceful demonstration. Abbas knew all about it and it was the condition sine qua non for Hamas to agree to unity. I have been following this since March 6. It’s a Jihad that will start out as a civilian peaceful mass demonstration but will morph into violent one (where the IDF will be at fault of course)when the peaceful demonstrators run for the borders on Sunday and the soldiers will be left no choice but fire.

It is an Islamic Intifada conceived and planned by Islamists which will begin organizing in the mosques on Friday with organized long-planned support all over the world on Sunday. The schedules with meeting places and times of meeting were out already two months ago.
The way it is being described
الزحف لتحرير فلسطينا-لانتفاظه الاسلاميه الكبرى

is inconsistent with the claims of peaceful demonstration.

Abbas knew all about it and it was the condition sine qua non for Hamas to agree to unity.

]]> By: max http://972mag.com/arab-spring-inspires-palestinian-protesters/14432/comment-page-1/#comment-10447 max Thu, 12 May 2011 19:48:04 +0000 http://972mag.com/?p=14432#comment-10447 Aziz, thanks for your post. You write "They fear popular movements may take attention away from their own efforts" - can you explain? Aziz, thanks for your post.
You write “They fear popular movements may take attention away from their own efforts” – can you explain?

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