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	<title>Comments on: African kids in Tel Aviv: They&#8217;ll do to us what they did to Jews in Germany</title>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 06:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please feature this video on your website! It is so important that people understand what is going on from the refugee&#039;s perspective!

https://vimeo.com/45049568</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please feature this video on your website! It is so important that people understand what is going on from the refugee&#8217;s perspective!</p>
<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/45049568" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/45049568</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t have much to say about this except the use of the word &quot;African&quot; in this post / article / whatever it is. I would have thought that in this day and age we would be respectful enough in how we describe the diverse set of people that come from a continent that has over 1 billion people in over 50 countries. Cmon, people, they are Sudanese, not Africans!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t have much to say about this except the use of the word &#8220;African&#8221; in this post / article / whatever it is. I would have thought that in this day and age we would be respectful enough in how we describe the diverse set of people that come from a continent that has over 1 billion people in over 50 countries. Cmon, people, they are Sudanese, not Africans!!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 19:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max said: &quot;Vicky, you have obviously a big good heart, &quot;

She always impresses me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max said: &#8220;Vicky, you have obviously a big good heart, &#8221;</p>
<p>She always impresses me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rozzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rozzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 01:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so nice to know we Jews still have a little country in which we can be like everyone else.  Just like everyone else.  Very elevating for those of us still wandering in the external wilderness.  Such freedom, such originality, such a model.  Why am I still in the States?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so nice to know we Jews still have a little country in which we can be like everyone else.  Just like everyone else.  Very elevating for those of us still wandering in the external wilderness.  Such freedom, such originality, such a model.  Why am I still in the States?</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody &quot;I used to agree with ...&quot; You can only be a liar. Referring to the mob action above as &#039;pogrom&#039;, or even comparing the general Israeli attitude towards refugees to that in France, Russia or Egypt (a sample only) is not a result of a sudden change, but that of a deep hate and prejudice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody &#8220;I used to agree with &#8230;&#8221; You can only be a liar. Referring to the mob action above as &#8216;pogrom&#8217;, or even comparing the general Israeli attitude towards refugees to that in France, Russia or Egypt (a sample only) is not a result of a sudden change, but that of a deep hate and prejudice.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to agree with the criticisms against using comparisons to Germany.   However, you have to understand things have completely changed.  Even those on the fence who felt this was an issue to be resolved by discussion and community work now see what the fascists have done with the discontent of the neighborhood residents.  They have not only bussed in fascist support to create a pogrom, but the government members have joined in.  This is now the next step to 1938.  Let&#039;s be clear.  These are pogroms and these are judeo-nazis.  By the way, for those who are confused, Jews also fled Russia to a Germany that then lynched them.  Learn history and stop deflecting blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to agree with the criticisms against using comparisons to Germany.   However, you have to understand things have completely changed.  Even those on the fence who felt this was an issue to be resolved by discussion and community work now see what the fascists have done with the discontent of the neighborhood residents.  They have not only bussed in fascist support to create a pogrom, but the government members have joined in.  This is now the next step to 1938.  Let&#8217;s be clear.  These are pogroms and these are judeo-nazis.  By the way, for those who are confused, Jews also fled Russia to a Germany that then lynched them.  Learn history and stop deflecting blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uri Orbach wrote this in 1986 in the settler magazine Nekuda, lampooning the sho&#039;ological nonsense that was coming out of the settler camp:
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Oh, what a beautiful shoah. How wonderful it is to use terms from another world in one&#039;s argument. It&#039;s frightening, it&#039;s intimidating, and they&#039;ll never dare. &quot;Do you want Samaria to be Judenrein?&quot; asks the expert on Holocaust and current affairs. &quot;No,&quot; replies another sho&#039;ologist, &quot;we will not go like sheep to the slaughter.&quot; &quot;The government is bringing down a Holocaust on our heads,&quot; another laments, and yet another adds, &quot;The Labor Party wants us to live in a Jewish ghetto within Hebron.&quot; Oh, panic, we have returned to you, you are forever, forever in our hearts. As far as I&#039;m concerned, and I don&#039;t care if I&#039;m not expressing the majority view, I&#039;m tired of this whole affair. What&#039;s this rubbish about &quot;holocaust&quot; and &quot;our little town is burning?&quot; Where does the holocaust come into the story? The first paranoids in our camp were the Yamit setters who were stupid enough to pin yellow badges to their lapels. Then they began denouncing the reparations the government is paying the evacuees. I was ashamed then and I am ashamed today. Those who want to view the world in only two colors, black and black, should keep their color blindness to themselves, and not inflict their world of associations on us. The bitter and horrendous legacy of the holocaust should not be turned into petty, false currency. And forgive me for the heresy, the evacuation of Eretz Israel is not a holocaust. I hereby volunteer nobly and like a sheep led to the slaughter, to be accused of nowism, and of tranquillizing appeasement. Thank you. I prefer that to the thenism which begins and ends with WW2, all of whose analogies are based on speeding trains and ghettos and Holocaust and black umbrellas. Oh, shoah show, how good it is to have you around, the best show in town. Did I say town? &quot;In the town of death&quot;! Intimidate, cry out, deter, compare, and the people of Israel will be frightened, will tremble and will, of course, flock in their thousands to Samaria with certificates of residence in the Jewish street between the ghettos under the rule of Pétain and the Vichy government within the borders of Auschwitz. The mob is hereby requested not to give the Holocaust a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri Orbach wrote this in 1986 in the settler magazine Nekuda, lampooning the sho&#8217;ological nonsense that was coming out of the settler camp:<br />
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Oh, what a beautiful shoah. How wonderful it is to use terms from another world in one&#8217;s argument. It&#8217;s frightening, it&#8217;s intimidating, and they&#8217;ll never dare. &#8220;Do you want Samaria to be Judenrein?&#8221; asks the expert on Holocaust and current affairs. &#8220;No,&#8221; replies another sho&#8217;ologist, &#8220;we will not go like sheep to the slaughter.&#8221; &#8220;The government is bringing down a Holocaust on our heads,&#8221; another laments, and yet another adds, &#8220;The Labor Party wants us to live in a Jewish ghetto within Hebron.&#8221; Oh, panic, we have returned to you, you are forever, forever in our hearts. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, and I don&#8217;t care if I&#8217;m not expressing the majority view, I&#8217;m tired of this whole affair. What&#8217;s this rubbish about &#8220;holocaust&#8221; and &#8220;our little town is burning?&#8221; Where does the holocaust come into the story? The first paranoids in our camp were the Yamit setters who were stupid enough to pin yellow badges to their lapels. Then they began denouncing the reparations the government is paying the evacuees. I was ashamed then and I am ashamed today. Those who want to view the world in only two colors, black and black, should keep their color blindness to themselves, and not inflict their world of associations on us. The bitter and horrendous legacy of the holocaust should not be turned into petty, false currency. And forgive me for the heresy, the evacuation of Eretz Israel is not a holocaust. I hereby volunteer nobly and like a sheep led to the slaughter, to be accused of nowism, and of tranquillizing appeasement. Thank you. I prefer that to the thenism which begins and ends with WW2, all of whose analogies are based on speeding trains and ghettos and Holocaust and black umbrellas. Oh, shoah show, how good it is to have you around, the best show in town. Did I say town? &#8220;In the town of death&#8221;! Intimidate, cry out, deter, compare, and the people of Israel will be frightened, will tremble and will, of course, flock in their thousands to Samaria with certificates of residence in the Jewish street between the ghettos under the rule of Pétain and the Vichy government within the borders of Auschwitz. The mob is hereby requested not to give the Holocaust a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: jason humphreys</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason humphreys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max. If somebody expresses themselves via social media why is this any less relevant than somebody expressing themselves through another forum? It doesn&#039;t teach us about the events but it does teach us about emotional reactions to the events, and these emotional reactions are just as important to the shaping of future events.

I see and empathise with your frustration, and agree that a lot of journalism at present is in the habit of putting forward opinion as if it were fact. I don&#039;t, however, believe the above article to be guilty of this. The author is clear that this is an expression of how someone is feeling, rather than an expression of fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max. If somebody expresses themselves via social media why is this any less relevant than somebody expressing themselves through another forum? It doesn&#8217;t teach us about the events but it does teach us about emotional reactions to the events, and these emotional reactions are just as important to the shaping of future events.</p>
<p>I see and empathise with your frustration, and agree that a lot of journalism at present is in the habit of putting forward opinion as if it were fact. I don&#8217;t, however, believe the above article to be guilty of this. The author is clear that this is an expression of how someone is feeling, rather than an expression of fact.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 13:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalism already switched from reporting about events and people behind events, to reporting about journalists who report about, and now we&#039;re at the age of post-post journalism were we&#039;ll report about Facebook posts as a reflection of reality...
Should we also use Facebook money and Facebook real-estate and Facebook Likes to address the refugee problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism already switched from reporting about events and people behind events, to reporting about journalists who report about, and now we&#8217;re at the age of post-post journalism were we&#8217;ll report about Facebook posts as a reflection of reality&#8230;<br />
Should we also use Facebook money and Facebook real-estate and Facebook Likes to address the refugee problems?</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 13:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason, I can&#039;t make the assumption that &quot;children who are educated in Israel are making this assumption&quot; based on a Facebook post.
Dimi and you do make - not an assumption but an assertion - and I&#039;d find it risible but unfortunately you also use it to incite for hate.
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As I wrote, there&#039;s enough to condemn without having to fabricate - or do you want to start comparing Facebook posts to see who&#039;s more racist and who&#039;s fabricating more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason, I can&#8217;t make the assumption that &#8220;children who are educated in Israel are making this assumption&#8221; based on a Facebook post.<br />
Dimi and you do make &#8211; not an assumption but an assertion &#8211; and I&#8217;d find it risible but unfortunately you also use it to incite for hate.<br />
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As I wrote, there&#8217;s enough to condemn without having to fabricate &#8211; or do you want to start comparing Facebook posts to see who&#8217;s more racist and who&#8217;s fabricating more?</p>
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