22 comments for ”Academic Freedom Under Attack? Interview with Prof. Neve Gordon“

    
  1. What Dr. Gordon describes is part of a calculated and comprehensive effort to end dissent and to attack the dissident community, including NGOs, academics, protesters, etc. At the same time the Monitors and self anointed priests of proper thought seem to have no shame and no inhibitions when it comes to wielding economic pressure on those institutions that espouse opinions with which they disagree…

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  3. I agree, Dr. Neve Gordon is at the center of a boycott campaign orchestrated and supported by – Dr. Neve Gordon.

    The Dr. Neve Gordon is an innocent victim of a vicious campaign advocated by the anti-democratic advocate Dr. Neve Gordon.
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    Okay, back to Earth. I don’t understand Why Dr. Gordon is complaining that people are actually following his advice for once, the advice he wrote in the LATimes. Does it really matter who is the first to be targetted? Did he really think the boycott campaign will end when all his political and ideological opponents have been defeated by the international BDS movement? I say he won’t be. He’ll be the first. If he can selectively support aspects of the BDS movement, why can’t other Israelis do the same? As long as he works at an Israeli institution, he’s fair game for the BDS movement, a movement he supports widely.

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  5. No need to write about your opinion, the professor proofs quite capable of explaining the situation.

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  7. Given the revolutions now taking place in the Middle East, without people as Neve Gordon (and perhaps even with them)Israel is likely to become one of the few non-democratic and fascist countries in the Middle East, similar to Germany in the early and mid 1930s. But this is not unusual for tribal societies.

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  9. Dorothy,

    Without people like Dr. Neve Gordon, people like Dr. Neve Gordon wouldn’t be prosecuted. Maybe Dr. Gordon should just drop his boycott campaign of Dr. Gordon?
    Too bad Dr. Gordon reads the LATimes. Otherwise, Dr. Gordon wouldn’t be orchestrating the boycott campaign against Dr. Gordon.

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  11. “…students sitting in class, filming the classes and then passing information on to the monitor groups and the media. The recordings are almost always edited, so the information doesn’t reflect what really went on in class”.

    But who’s preventing Dr.Gordon from recording&distributing his own classes?

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  13. The writer mentioned for “proper disclosure” that she is adjunct teacher at Gordon’s dept. She didn’t mention, however, that this position – unlike tenured ones – has been totally dependent on him in his cpacity as department chair. Her take should be taken with a mountain, not a grain of salt. This is an invited review”, not a fair one.

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  16. What a pity, then, that when, last year, I suggested to Professor Gordon that he debate with me (at BGU) issues of BDS and academic freedom he emailed to say he was “not interested,” and that when I conducted a seminar at BGU (28 March this year) on “Intellectual Freedom & Academic Obligation” he apparently chose not to contribute to the discussion.

    Geoffrey Alderman

    [Patron, UK Council on Academic Freedom]

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  18. So both Neve Gordon and Joseph Dana can tell foreign donors not to give any money to BGU because its an israeli university and therefore should be targetted for BDS but if right wingers want to launch a BDS campaign against it then they complain of stifling academic freedom?

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  20. Response/Retort to your interview – now appears here:

    http://zioncon.blogspot.com/2011/04/worlds-best-illustration-of-leftwing.html

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  22. Gordon has the absolute right to publish and propagate his ideas, including his call to boycott Israel. But, when he calls for boycott of his own university, which pays his salary, without resigning first, it shows a complete lack of personal integrity.
    One wonders, how long would a journalist continue to work for a newspaper he calls to boycott?
    If he doew not resign he should be fired.

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  24. How interesting that none of the free speech absolutists here defending the right of Gordon to lead the SWAT team against Israel have had anything at all to say about Gordon’s own SLAPP suit harassment against another professor in Israel, where Gordon filed an anti-democractic harassment SLAPP suit to silence the professor and “punish” him for criticizing Gordon’s own political behavior and writings. Free speech for me but not for thee?

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  26. Jacob and Maya do not get the point: there is discussion to save human values as Human Rights and democracy in a given society! Neve Gordon as defender of those values (which are the basis of modern states and societies)in his university has a big role to play for its saveguard. In an advanced democratic society students should be on his side and not on the side of a colonial type government stepping out from the 19th century. This is Israel’s reality today, completely anachronic.There is a sharp look in the future of professor Gordon. It is sad to spend all the energy for saving values created after the horrors of two world wars which are now again under attack. We should not even fight today for a colonial system in which the indigenous people are destroyed! What a penible moment in human history, allways repeating the horror. Neve Gordon should gouverne in Israel. The politicians are really not competent to rule in a save and human way the state.

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  28. The fact that Gordon claims to be a defender of human rights does not make him a defender of human rights. In reality, he has very little interest in human rights. He explicitly opposes the human right of Jews to defend themselves. Of course, grasping this is beyond the ability of haters of Israel like Frigga who regard Israel as a colonialist entity.
    The whole problem is that Gordon and his ilk seek to dictate to students that they must be “on his side” (as Frigga demands) and against the side of Israel.
    The indigenous people of Israel are the Jews, whereas the Arab aggressors are the ones seeking to destroy the indigenous ones.

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  30. I live in a democracy where I am tolerated and respected. Donald Trump talks silly and can run for president of the country. Thats fine. Neve Gordon has taken ugly repellent criticism from many who fail to appreciate his zionist existence, thinking they are what is zionist. The greatest of the early thinkers on the subject would not dismiss his position as anti israel. He and his associates want a better Israel. Isaiah and Jeremiah had their detractors. We dishonor all the literary prophets, from Amos to those of our time, when we fail to accord Neve respect and honor. But prophets do not have comfortable lives. Yishyahu Leibowitz also sustained himself with grace. My critics will not understand my words. They call products made in Maale Adumim “made in Israel.” I don”t understand them.

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  32. I am just wondering how many of the “free speech/academic freedom” advocates here would be in favor of Arutz 7 becoming a legal radio station?

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  34. Mitchell, the implication that the free speech advocates are incapable of holding a principle and are automatically pushing their own political agenda is such a tired cliche; you really expose the fact that you depend on knee-jerk critiques when you have nothing else to go on, or perhaps when you have no answer to the substantive arguments here – or else (my guess) – that you didn’t truly consider those arguments at all.
    The real question is why Arutz 7 ISN’T a legal station. Are they afraid of being held to proper journalistic standards? Prefer to avoid fees or taxes? Don’t feel like dealing with censors? feel themselves above the law? I daresay those are far bigger problems in Israel today than your make-believe one.

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  36. 972BLOG, do you have any evidence that Arutz 7 refused to do any of those things?

    Also, why is it that the Knesset passed a law to legalize Arutz 7, but then the law was shot down by the Supreme Court?

    And, yes, I still wonder how many of the regular bloggers here are losing sleep that a significant population in Israel still does not have a “legal” radio station representing their views.

    This is not a question that will go away anytime soon because you call it a “tired cliche”….

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  38. In any other nation Neve Gordon would be charged with sedition.

    Imagine this. A government-sponsored public university hires facualty that promotes boycotts of their very own government.

    The government that pays them their salaries and gives them freedom in the most progressive state in the Middle East/Africa (not much of a competition though..)

    It is insanity. I can’t think of another country – Britain, USA, Germany – with similar “intellectuals.”

    This isn’t unique. Arab members of Israel’s parliament have made contact with members of Hamas, Hezbollah, leaders of Syria and Iran.

    Imagine US politicians meeting with members of Al Qaeda after 9/11. The outrage that would ensue.

    But in Israel it is tolerated. The Islamist movement has full freedom in Israel. Unlike in Jordan or Egypt where the Islamist movement is banned.



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