Comments on: A State is Born: Israel may find new friend in South Sudan

By: Sylvia

Sylvia — Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:31:31 +0000

Israel should exercize her right to remain silent on the subject of South Sudan. From what I’ve seen in Arab forums, they are raging over what they view as “the division of an Arab country” and videos are being circulated supposedly of the celebrations in Juba showing people waving US and Israeli flags which inflames the anger.
I don’t think Bashir or his Islamist allies have accepted it I think they are waiting for the right time (I venture to say September when all eyes are on the Middle East or elsewhere).
Speaking of the Sudanese refugees in Israel, one of them got stabbed today – possibly by another Sudanese but we don’t know for sure.

By: Sylvia

Sylvia — Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:18:45 +0000

Bea
“What it is reported as saying sounds fairly in keeping with what I understand as having been Israel’s general long term strategy in the Greater Middle East (including North Africa)”
Bea you don’t need more books about the conflict, what you need is a beginner’s course in geography. South Soudan has a common border with Kenya, which I wouldn’t exactly ;place in the Middle East. Slo much for the “ring”.

By: Empress Trudy

Empress Trudy — Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:21:13 +0000

So the creation of Southern Sudan is in reality a super secret Zionist plot to create a massive Jewish colonial empire in Africa?

Wow. Just wow. Where did you study, at the University of Halperidol?

You do realize that the Peaceful Peaceloving Muslims of North Sudanese’ of Peace have perpetrated a genocide upon the South in order to grab that part of the country which we know has 85% of the oil and valuable minerals.

And not to put too fine a point on it, there are today thousands of Chinese PLA troops in Sudan to secure Chinese interests there. If China is now officially under the sway of the Infinite Eternal Zionist I hadn’t heard that. Is there a memo from Electronic Intifada I missed?

By: bea

bea — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:40:36 +0000

**new** friend (in South Sudan) old “friendships”? Have Israel (UK, US, Belgium and presumably others to; still cutting up the post colonial pie) not been working with “friends” in the South for decades? I can’t find much on this just now–it was 10 or so years back in Uni that I took an interest, and there was a bit around.

There is quite a lot of mention of a book (which is really why I am making this comment) “Israel and the Movement for the Liberation of South Sudan”, 2003, Moshe Fergie, Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies on the net, which I would be interested to know if really exists: I’m slightly suspicious as I have had no luck tracking it down, and the mentions look like they may all derive from one or two articles on sites that I am not familiar with; perhaps speaking Hebrew is an adavantage to finding out if it does exis, and, if so, whether it is still available somehow?

What it is reported as saying sounds fairly in keeping with what I understand as having been Israel’s general long term strategy in the Greater Middle East (including North Africa) since the Ben Gurion & Dayan days: of aiming to “encourage” the creation of an outer ring “friendly” (generally) minority/non-muslim ruled political entities around the larger arab states, which would come to view Israel as vital to their survivial in a region where a permanent sense of crisis–for both internal cohesion, and external lack of it–was to be the name of the game. (Livia Rokach (Moshe Sharret); Chomsky (in a lot more detail of course) amongst other cover this stuff, if I remember.)

By: Empress Trudy

Empress Trudy — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:54:35 +0000

Still trying to understand what precisely is ‘offensive’ about noting that the BDS movement wants a boycott and what that means is no allies or friends of Israel, none. Including the wretched misfortunates of Africa. Should Israel persist in reaching out, that would of course be construed as a provocation nay, an insult upon all of Islam.

And who wants that? Sudan’s Bashir is an indicted war criminal and yet he travels freely on UN planes. Israel making friends with South Sudan would not bode well for the dhimmi state of South Sudan. I’d say they should leave off and know their place in the world.

By: Empress Trudy

Empress Trudy — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:47:46 +0000

And yet when you do insist on boycotts, how does that work again?

By: Empress Trudy

Empress Trudy — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:36:30 +0000

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